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there's nothing to hack there's nothing

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hey guys welcome to somewhere in the

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live stream uh it's really bright where

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I am right now it's only 10 a.m I'm in

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an undisclosed location on a remote

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island somewhere I bet you can take a

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hint with that but um thank you thank

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you for joining me I hope the Wi-Fi

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holds out please let me know in the chat

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if it's really glitchy or anything like

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um but yeah welcome I wasn't able to do

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a live stream last week I was traveling

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uh literally across uh the world uh so

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apologies for that but we did have an

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awesome replay of a interview we did

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with one and only Micah Hanks about

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medieval UFOs

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um and I know it was the first time for

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a lot of you seeing that so I highly

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hope you enjoyed that it was a super

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fascinating conversation if you haven't

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seen it go back it should be the last

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video in the archives there but welcome

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to everyone in the chat um all our

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regulars are here dalen Carolina soon

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Zan Andrew Owen is here

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um Andreas is here who also got metal

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Hendrix welcome welcome guys scape VFX

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is here 11 8 uh Pine seeder welcome

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um so this is gonna be kind of a quick

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one tonight guys we don't have UFO

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stories because they're honestly hasn't

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been a lot this past week in terms of

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dig up some really good podcast

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highlights for you tonight that we're

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her in let's not waste any more time and

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let's welcome again to somewhere in the

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live stream the one and only Chrissy

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Newton welcome hey good to see you you

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too you too we were talking a little bit

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before we went on here um and you and I

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why not push the live button and let's

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just do this on air but um yeah

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tonight's gonna be fun Chrissy this is

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gonna be probably the most laid back

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um I I was trying to be so professional

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tried to present it so I don't know I

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don't know uh what I was doing early on

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this is how I wanted super laid back you

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sure Toronto it was gloomy and cold

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by the end of this but it is what it is

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humble breath yes but um how's

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stuff that's coming up which we will

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tease at the end of the live stream but

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how how what's going on in your UFO

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world before we even get to pause even

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the stuff like teasing like preparing

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for contact in the desert it's my first

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them together so I'll be doing like this

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that have been issued and just picking

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rebelliously Curious which would be

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but I'll also show them in the

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presentation too so I have this little

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now and that's what I've been working on

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so it's exciting but I'm also petrified

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and I will be getting your advice

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because I know you've done this you've

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done way more of these presentations

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than I have so I'll be calling you

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that's for sure I will tell you right

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now Chrissy it does not get easier I

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know that doesn't put your mind at ease

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say that I know I know I know I know but

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but at the same time like that's good

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because it keeps you on your toes um you

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never get comfortable because that's the

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last thing you need in the UFO topic is

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someone and you know going up there and

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just going through the same thing over

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and over all the Stan Friedman and

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please I mean no disrespect to the men

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ufology but you know when you're giving

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um it can be a little a little uh uh

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what's the word I'm looking for

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um predictable so uh I think it's good

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to just keep shaking things up when I

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give my presentations I always add

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something new in there

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um I always ask for feedback from people

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who've seen my conclusions before what

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did they like what did they not like

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a lot of that comes from my my

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playwriting world you know when I would

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go see my own plays I'd sit in the back

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row and not tell anyone I was there just

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so I could get like that audience

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response hear what they're laughing at

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when it's supposed to be funny or vice

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versa kind of stuff like that so I got a

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sure sure your PR background is going to

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um all that more unique so um okay when

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he's contacting the desert again uh June

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2nd to the 4th so please get tickets 100

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if you want to come hear me speak or

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just and there's a variety of speakers

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like it's so vast and it's interesting

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because everyone has a different

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perspective that's going to be up there

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so you know I'll be with a lot of people

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that I have never even met yet in my

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career I'll learn a lot from them and

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then people that I might not always

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agree with and some of their opinions

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like I'm open-minded so I'm open to have

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just getting to talk with everybody

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hopefully I get a good you know turnout

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in my presentation so we'll see I'm only

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doing 45 minutes so it's my first

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go-around yeah and then I'll do 90 maybe

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and then comedy you got to do it it's

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something like that yeah well that's a

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the phenomenon and looking at it my

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entire life it doesn't mean that you

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know I know the background exactly like

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everyone else does I'm always growing

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and learning all the time my perspective

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might be just a little bit different

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because of my occupation which is really

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wonderful and obviously podcasting uh

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working in media so it's very different

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lot of respect and we'll be looking at

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proud and um exactly I have no doubt I

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have no doubt you will um you bring a

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that's kind of what we're going to talk

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about tonight we're going to get your

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highlights of the week I don't know if I

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weaponized we did everything else was

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you know it's kind of the One-Stop shop

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every Sunday now to kind of catch up on

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what was going on in the podcast world

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because we uh honestly like we all of us

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don't have you know the time to listen

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to all of these things every week I try

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like when I'm not making somewhere in

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the skies I'm listening the podcast I

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need to know what's going on out there

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and um and and honestly I just love it

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especially coming from New York where uh

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every day it's a commute on the subway

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and the last thing you want is for

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anyone to engage with you or talk to you

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so you put your airpods in and you start

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listening to a podcast no one bothers

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you so that that's the world I come from

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when I'm not making podcasts I'm

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listening to them and yeah yeah I think

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it it's it's a cool way for me to catch

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up on a lot of what's going on out there

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and there is a gentleman on Twitter that

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oh my God he edits so he's added so much

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of mine too and and has and also links

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to the back to the show so Kudos I agree

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my if you cut this Mike thank you

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he did I will say a lot of our Clips

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directly from Mike's Twitter uh he does

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incredible work I have no shame in

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saying I steal a lot of his stuff

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um but he just makes it so digestible he

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finds the true highlights of what was

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said in these interviews and then like

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you said he links to the full interview

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so um any of the clips you see tonight

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guys uh I will after this retroactively

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I'll put links to all of the interviews

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um in the show notes but if you're not

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following Mike go over to Twitter right

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now and follow him I'll put a link to

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his uh to his account in the the show

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notes as well um all right Christy

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should we do it should we just get to

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the eclipse okay cool to me let's do it

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uh before we do that thank you so much

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Super Chat here Nicholas are you guys

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aware of the UFO Heritage conference

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happening yes uh rabbit hole and I

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believe

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um yeah and then along with uh Mike is

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going to be speaking there Bryce zable

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speaking there so I was gonna go but I

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just I don't have the time to go so good

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luck to everyone that's doing it and

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like amazing location yes amazing it's

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it's amazing and yes we definitely have

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to get props to UFO rabbit hole and the

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work Kelly's doing over there um I

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should mention I believe right Kelly

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yeah she she put the whole thing

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together um she's just scaling it her

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books her podcasts the conference

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um I should mention too she's actually

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giving somewhere in the skies two free

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tickets guys to that conference I'm

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gonna be announcing that soon but I

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guess I'm announcing it right now so we

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will have two free tickets to that that

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event

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um for you guys I've got to come up with

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some sort of I don't know contest or

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something uh that that people can win

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those so I'll um I'll be doing that this

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week for sure I gotta get on that oh

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things have just been so crazy

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um let me see here I did want to say

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hello to Douglas Sprague my father and

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mother are always here I really do

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appreciate them being here

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um and everyone else in the chat I know

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I didn't say hi to everyone but uh we we

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were wasting so much time I'm so sorry

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let's let's do this guys let's get into

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the clips let's get to them

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um

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the first one tonight that we are going

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to cover uh Chrissy is

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um Diana Walsh basilka now I should

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tease that I have an upcoming book

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coming out in the next couple months and

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one Diana paselka will be writing the

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forward for it uh I got it today and I

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am so honored and flattered and excited

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um I got the book cover as well that I

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showed you Chrissy and nobody else so uh

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oh my God I'm just I just want it now I

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want it out now but that's that's just

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the way it is but um yes this show which

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I've never heard of actually the

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demystify psy podcast interview Diana

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pasoka um author of uh American Cosmic

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and in this clip she actually talked

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about um astronauts and why they sign

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non-disclosure agreements before going

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to space so um I guess I'll just play it

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and we'll we'll talk a little about that

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topic on the other side how's that sound

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sounds good to me awesome let me pull

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that up here we go guys

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um it does seem like there is a concern

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about that and that's why we do see this

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saturated media especially with respect

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to UFOs like it seems like

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first off we have some competing

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uh space programs like we have we you

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know what are the viable space programs

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well it has traditionally been the

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Russian space program and and U.S space

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program and believe it or not we have

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been we're with them we're not they're

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not our enemies in space okay so we're

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in the space station together we do

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technology together

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um okay but now China has its own space

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program and so it's putting people up

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into space too it's seeing what's up

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there and there was a point when Tyler

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asked Tyler uh because astronauts signed

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ndas before they go into space and I was

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curious about that and so Tyler of

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course knows all these astronauts and I

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said why do they in fact it was in front

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of an astronaut that I asked this I said

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why do you have to sign an NDA and they

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both kind of looked at me and Tyler said

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yeah I've never had more difficulty than

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trying to interview NASA people it's

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like the amounts of red tape that you

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have to go through to talk we've had one

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astronaut on our show and it was it was

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yeah so that's a topic that I've never

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really thought about Christie I don't

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know about you but like astronauts

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obviously see a lot of things out there

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that probably they can't readily explain

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so even before they get up there they

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have to sign these ndas in case they see

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anything

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um right so what do you make of this

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whole aspect of this astronauts seeing

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things in space and not being able to

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really talk about it well it's so hard

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because

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hey I'm not an astronaut I've spoken to

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Chris Hadfield I've interviewed an Astra

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a former astronaut so right and it was

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actually one of my first interviews I

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ever did he's Canadian you know yay

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Canada uh and I really like Chris

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Hadfield a lot but he's not big into the

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UAP topic and I know that we have we'll

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Bridge something and we'll bridge that

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comment later today right later in this

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show but he never spoke about you know

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seeing anything up there it doesn't mean

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that they're not that's for sure but I

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do agree with the NDA piece of it

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because it

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you're not No One's Gonna really let's

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be honest astronaut's not going to go to

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Twitter probably not and start tweeting

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stuff when they come back about seeing

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it but there have been cases that

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astronauts have for sure and we've seen

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this in history that they have said that

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they have seen stuff out there so an NDA

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makes sense because NASA is protecting

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themselves and obviously whoever they're

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seeing could technically be for an

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adversary Tech too it doesn't mean that

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it's you know UAP based or like or it is

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a UAP but it doesn't mean that it's like

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extraterrestrial interdimensional or

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anything so before analyzing it and

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seeing and and not kind of going off the

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the cuff and just making a comment like

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I've seen something extraterrestrial

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based then for sure I think it makes

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sense that they put ndas in place but

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you know and the other comment though

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too about NASA being really difficult

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that's actually not correct because I've

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been I've requested to do interviews

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with astronauts within NASA and they

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were really free there wasn't a lot of

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red tape so when I watched that clip you

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sent me I kind of laughed because I was

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like it's actually not true uh they're

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easy to talk to there's just a lot of

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people at Nasa that work in

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Communications because there's just so

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much going on like it's it's a full-time

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job for it and you also see these

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communicators that are doing all the

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launches too A lot of them are working

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with PR people like there's a whole

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massive communication side to NASA so it

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makes sense that there's all these

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different peoples for the jet propulsion

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laboratory to astronauts former

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astronauts stuff like new programs that

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are you know Artemis for example new

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programs that are launching there's

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always something going on so that's why

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you're kind of going to Wrangler to

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Wrangler to figure out who the best

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person is to help NASA is trying to help

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you find the right person to do the

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right interview so they actually do

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Communications they do their job so well

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so I just wanted to say that that's not

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totally correct right and I'm sure it

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has a lot to do too with how you

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approach them like if you were to go to

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like I don't know DM an astronaut on

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Twitter and be like yo I've got a UFO

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podcast and I want you to tell me all

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the like tell me about the face on Mars

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like that's real right I'm sure like

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that's something they're gonna be like

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uh who are you no I'm not gonna come on

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your podcast to talk about the face on

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Mars like that there's there's

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bureaucratic tape with this there's

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politics there's PR literally so I mean

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I guess to kind of play off of that and

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I'm gonna play the Chris Hadfield clip

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next I think we should stay in the

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astronaut vein

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um but when you've dealt with people

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like this either astronauts or uh

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intelligence officials I know you've

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worked very closely with people like uh

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Christopher Mellon Luis alizando um and

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even people that aren't so visible as

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those those individuals um too is there

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a lot of red tape like is there a lot of

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like you can't talk about this you can't

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discuss this they have an NDA for this

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um what is that like dealing with that

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kind of stuff because I've dealt with

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them a little bit like um when I've had

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like melanon and stuff like that like of

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course I'm not gonna ask you know what

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classified videos have you seen and can

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you describe them second by second for

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us right here right now in front of you

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know a live stream right but what is

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that like

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yeah like I don't represent Lou

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Alexander or Christopher melon I'll just

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say that so people know uh but I've like

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I've known Chris I've known Lou and I

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know them based because nobody know both

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of them base because of the debrief

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monocracy words on a Sunday I know them

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both because of the debrief and for sure

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I've worked with Christopher melon where

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we've done some stuff with the hill when

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we've seen a story that we ended up

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breaking or Chris wrote more of like an

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opinion piece about you know the the

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Army going um AWOL or sorry the oh my

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gosh what was it oh the Air Force thank

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you the Air Force bearing AWOL so I did

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some PR with him and we did some seating

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of the hill so yeah working with them

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but there is no like NDA you can't speak

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you know from what I've known they're

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they're former officials so they take

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care of their own public relations and

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they have other people that do help them

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too when it comes to other people maybe

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giving them opinions or thoughts but you

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know there is no NDA they're smart

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enough to know in hoping

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um that they aren't going to say

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something that obviously is going to get

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them in trouble but

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yeah working with them is I've always

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anyone I've ever worked with or know or

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have spoken to within Intel have been

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really wonderful and to be honest some

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of them don't understand PR fully

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um and I won't say who those people are

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00:22:48,770 --> 00:22:46,400
but they don't really understand

539
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:48,780
Communications and that's one thing that

540
00:22:52,730 --> 00:22:50,640
if you're somebody who's worked in Intel

541
00:22:55,070 --> 00:22:52,740
or you work in military or you work

542
00:22:58,130 --> 00:22:55,080
somewhere that you've served this whole

543
00:22:59,810 --> 00:22:58,140
world is so different and so new when

544
00:23:02,149 --> 00:22:59,820
you decide to come forward and talk

545
00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:02,159
about topics like uaps or anything to be

546
00:23:06,409 --> 00:23:04,740
honest in a whistleblower capacity so

547
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,419
you're you don't know how media is going

548
00:23:11,450 --> 00:23:08,400
to take you might have an idea you know

549
00:23:12,830 --> 00:23:11,460
you're not fully aware

550
00:23:15,169 --> 00:23:12,840
um unless you're making some kind of

551
00:23:16,789 --> 00:23:15,179
disinformation campaign then that's a

552
00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:16,799
totally different ethical question but

553
00:23:19,789 --> 00:23:18,360
let's say they don't know yeah this is

554
00:23:21,409 --> 00:23:19,799
totally new to them so they're kind of

555
00:23:25,310 --> 00:23:21,419
navigating this system and navigating

556
00:23:27,169 --> 00:23:25,320
the Waters of of blogs of podcasts of

557
00:23:29,270 --> 00:23:27,179
mainstream media and making sure that

558
00:23:31,490 --> 00:23:29,280
everything they say and their key

559
00:23:33,950 --> 00:23:31,500
messaging as we use it is still mind

560
00:23:35,510 --> 00:23:33,960
right it's really challenging and so if

561
00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,520
you're not good at that and you're a guy

562
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:37,440
that's come from some form of service

563
00:23:41,570 --> 00:23:39,360
and you're coming forward and you have

564
00:23:43,190 --> 00:23:41,580
no idea about how media Works you're

565
00:23:44,930 --> 00:23:43,200
going to get lost and that's how that's

566
00:23:47,570 --> 00:23:44,940
why people attack too because they're

567
00:23:49,909 --> 00:23:47,580
seeing these inconsistencies is because

568
00:23:51,289 --> 00:23:49,919
some people might rephrase things

569
00:23:53,090 --> 00:23:51,299
differently they might learn new

570
00:23:54,590 --> 00:23:53,100
information they're just not PR

571
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,600
professionals and you know what I

572
00:23:58,430 --> 00:23:56,400
respect that because I'd Rather somebody

573
00:24:00,409 --> 00:23:58,440
come forward and be honest and do their

574
00:24:03,169 --> 00:24:00,419
best rather than trying to concoct

575
00:24:05,270 --> 00:24:03,179
something that is a storyline so yeah

576
00:24:06,590 --> 00:24:05,280
that's such a good point I've never

577
00:24:10,250 --> 00:24:06,600
really thought of that too and that's

578
00:24:13,669 --> 00:24:10,260
why you know when people like melon or

579
00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:13,679
Elizondo go to certain conferences or on

580
00:24:17,149 --> 00:24:15,720
certain shows and everyone's like oh my

581
00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:17,159
God I can't believe they went on there

582
00:24:22,310 --> 00:24:19,919
like don't they know the history of the

583
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,320
700 episodes they've done and haven't

584
00:24:26,570 --> 00:24:24,000
they listened to every single one of

585
00:24:30,049 --> 00:24:26,580
those 700 episodes and know that that

586
00:24:32,510 --> 00:24:30,059
person has connections to Nazis or you

587
00:24:35,149 --> 00:24:32,520
know like kind of I I know I'm making

588
00:24:36,890 --> 00:24:35,159
light of that situation in so many words

589
00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:36,900
but at the same time like they don't

590
00:24:41,690 --> 00:24:39,000
know they don't know the baggage that

591
00:24:45,409 --> 00:24:41,700
comes with certain media Outlets or or

592
00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:45,419
podcasts and it's new to them so I try

593
00:24:50,029 --> 00:24:47,460
to leave a little leeway when stuff like

594
00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:50,039
that happens you know when like whatever

595
00:24:54,830 --> 00:24:53,640
Gary Nolan goes on Fox News and

596
00:24:57,590 --> 00:24:54,840
everyone's like oh my God I can't

597
00:24:59,930 --> 00:24:57,600
believe he did Fox News or you know vice

598
00:25:01,549 --> 00:24:59,940
versa someone goes on CNN and they're

599
00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:01,559
like oh my God I can't believe they went

600
00:25:06,890 --> 00:25:04,799
on scene it's kind of it's like well

601
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,900
that's because they probably just said

602
00:25:11,149 --> 00:25:09,120
oh this is an opportunity to get the

603
00:25:13,850 --> 00:25:11,159
word out on the UAP topic to a large

604
00:25:17,270 --> 00:25:13,860
audience um let's do it um not really

605
00:25:21,289 --> 00:25:17,280
thinking oh this person is controversial

606
00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:21,299
or or this or that so I try to leave a

607
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:22,860
good amount of leeway when it comes to

608
00:25:26,750 --> 00:25:25,140
stuff like that and and yeah the only

609
00:25:28,730 --> 00:25:26,760
challenge you have with that is that

610
00:25:31,370 --> 00:25:28,740
when you start getting into the space of

611
00:25:33,409 --> 00:25:31,380
Fox News and NBC and all those larger

612
00:25:35,450 --> 00:25:33,419
outlets in CNN and who you're giving

613
00:25:36,590 --> 00:25:35,460
your exclusive to and what relationships

614
00:25:39,049 --> 00:25:36,600
you're playing with

615
00:25:40,730 --> 00:25:39,059
that so for us the goal and I would say

616
00:25:42,710 --> 00:25:40,740
majority of people in this space that

617
00:25:44,450 --> 00:25:42,720
are trying to contribute to you know

618
00:25:46,909 --> 00:25:44,460
let's say I know people hate to use the

619
00:25:48,470 --> 00:25:46,919
word uthology but contribute to it to

620
00:25:51,110 --> 00:25:48,480
the area of study

621
00:25:53,149 --> 00:25:51,120
we're trying to find answers and ask

622
00:25:55,190 --> 00:25:53,159
questions right that's our goal we want

623
00:25:57,710 --> 00:25:55,200
transparency and we want to know more

624
00:26:00,049 --> 00:25:57,720
and we want it to be factual but then we

625
00:26:02,210 --> 00:26:00,059
get into areas of that people start

626
00:26:04,250 --> 00:26:02,220
contributing and media starts aligning

627
00:26:06,710 --> 00:26:04,260
then so if you give an exclusive to

628
00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:06,720
another outlet and say you go to Fox and

629
00:26:11,510 --> 00:26:09,179
you don't go to NBC NBC might get upset

630
00:26:13,610 --> 00:26:11,520
and decide to Blacklist that person or

631
00:26:15,649 --> 00:26:13,620
Blacklist any of the topic in general

632
00:26:18,169 --> 00:26:15,659
and stop really referring to it because

633
00:26:19,669 --> 00:26:18,179
it's become more of a Fox news story and

634
00:26:21,649 --> 00:26:19,679
this is not the problem of the person

635
00:26:24,769 --> 00:26:21,659
this is the problem of the news outlets

636
00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:24,779
because it becomes political and we see

637
00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,580
that and I've I won't say who but I've

638
00:26:30,529 --> 00:26:27,840
known that's happened and that's why I

639
00:26:32,029 --> 00:26:30,539
speak of it because it's you know they

640
00:26:33,049 --> 00:26:32,039
at one point one Outlet was like we're

641
00:26:35,029 --> 00:26:33,059
not even going to talk about this

642
00:26:36,890 --> 00:26:35,039
because we didn't get that story and

643
00:26:39,470 --> 00:26:36,900
it's kind of ridiculous right that's not

644
00:26:42,409 --> 00:26:39,480
how news media is supposed to work such

645
00:26:45,049 --> 00:26:42,419
a work that is right so different now

646
00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:45,059
it's like the wild wild west but yeah

647
00:26:48,890 --> 00:26:46,980
and that's unfortunate because if

648
00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:48,900
somebody decides to go to another outlet

649
00:26:52,789 --> 00:26:51,120
and gives an exclusive story doesn't go

650
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:52,799
anywhere else well does that should that

651
00:26:56,870 --> 00:26:55,020
wreck that person's career or not career

652
00:26:58,610 --> 00:26:56,880
but have them go on any other larger

653
00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:58,620
Outlet speaking about this when they do

654
00:27:03,289 --> 00:27:01,140
have knowledge and are you know uh let's

655
00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:03,299
say an educator or a scientist or

656
00:27:07,190 --> 00:27:04,919
whoever they might be they're the people

657
00:27:10,669 --> 00:27:07,200
we want to go forward I don't know

658
00:27:12,169 --> 00:27:10,679
offense to Joe schmoe but Joe schmoe I

659
00:27:13,789 --> 00:27:12,179
don't you know it's not that I don't

660
00:27:16,549 --> 00:27:13,799
respect you Joshua and you might have

661
00:27:18,830 --> 00:27:16,559
the best research out there but it needs

662
00:27:20,450 --> 00:27:18,840
to be peer reviewed you know you have to

663
00:27:22,730 --> 00:27:20,460
have some academics behind you and this

664
00:27:24,890 --> 00:27:22,740
is why we have people in NASA and people

665
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:24,900
right now within Stanford and Harvard

666
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:26,279
coming forward and having these

667
00:27:31,070 --> 00:27:28,080
conversations and that's what we've been

668
00:27:33,649 --> 00:27:31,080
fighting for for years now and everyone

669
00:27:35,570 --> 00:27:33,659
before us so now we have it let's just

670
00:27:37,970 --> 00:27:35,580
let them go forward and hopefully news

671
00:27:40,070 --> 00:27:37,980
outlets will stop being political and

672
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:40,080
stop polarizing the topic themselves so

673
00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:42,120
that they just let the the conversation

674
00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:45,659
be had so yeah yeah and absolutely I

675
00:27:50,330 --> 00:27:47,100
feel like I'm coming on here and ranting

676
00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:50,340
I think no no no no that's what we want

677
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:52,860
that's what the live stream is for the

678
00:27:56,330 --> 00:27:54,080
grant

679
00:27:59,570 --> 00:27:56,340
it's the brand cast and we're in the

680
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,580
brand uh no that's why I love your PR

681
00:28:04,070 --> 00:28:01,919
perspective on all this because yeah I I

682
00:28:06,289 --> 00:28:04,080
and I feel the same way like I wish we

683
00:28:09,169 --> 00:28:06,299
could just have like a great reset and

684
00:28:12,409 --> 00:28:09,179
have the the mainstream media like just

685
00:28:15,649 --> 00:28:12,419
start over with everything and stop the

686
00:28:18,649 --> 00:28:15,659
political uh divisiveness that goes into

687
00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:18,659
a lot of the coverage of um everything

688
00:28:23,510 --> 00:28:21,059
in the world today not just UFOs but

689
00:28:25,730 --> 00:28:23,520
even the UFO topic it seems to be

690
00:28:28,669 --> 00:28:25,740
becoming uh politicized we're seeing

691
00:28:31,730 --> 00:28:28,679
that play out right now in Congress and

692
00:28:34,130 --> 00:28:31,740
and whatnot too um we'll get to that but

693
00:28:36,350 --> 00:28:34,140
um I guess let's move on to our next

694
00:28:38,510 --> 00:28:36,360
clip uh you mentioned uh you have

695
00:28:41,990 --> 00:28:38,520
interviewed Chris Hadfield in the past

696
00:28:45,409 --> 00:28:42,000
and he um that's amazing he he recently

697
00:28:48,470 --> 00:28:45,419
did a interview on the London Reel with

698
00:28:49,909 --> 00:28:48,480
Brian Rose show a show I'm not too

699
00:28:51,950 --> 00:28:49,919
familiar with

700
00:28:54,409 --> 00:28:51,960
um let me see if I do this yeah yeah

701
00:28:56,390 --> 00:28:54,419
I've never heard of it um but he had

702
00:28:59,510 --> 00:28:56,400
Chris Hadfield on ooh look at that other

703
00:29:04,190 --> 00:28:59,520
show on there we'll get to that one too

704
00:29:07,789 --> 00:29:04,200
um Chris is known to be very tough on

705
00:29:09,769 --> 00:29:07,799
UFO people and UFO Believers uh so I

706
00:29:14,450 --> 00:29:09,779
think he kind of upsets a lot of people

707
00:29:17,990 --> 00:29:14,460
but he is I want to say being a little

708
00:29:20,029 --> 00:29:18,000
more open to the possibility lately um

709
00:29:22,549 --> 00:29:20,039
but he also keeps things very grounded

710
00:29:24,590 --> 00:29:22,559
in in perspective and I think that's

711
00:29:27,049 --> 00:29:24,600
what this clip I'm going to show kind of

712
00:29:29,450 --> 00:29:27,059
conveys so um let's go ahead and play

713
00:29:31,130 --> 00:29:29,460
that and then I would love since you

714
00:29:33,289 --> 00:29:31,140
have interviewed this astronaut as well

715
00:29:36,230 --> 00:29:33,299
to kind of get your thoughts on on his

716
00:29:41,389 --> 00:29:38,450
all right so first of all that host

717
00:29:44,330 --> 00:29:41,399
Brian Rose looks like a mafia Don I'm

718
00:29:47,389 --> 00:29:44,340
not gonna lie uh that look into yeah

719
00:29:51,110 --> 00:29:47,399
he's gotta change his camera angle he

720
00:29:54,769 --> 00:29:51,120
looks evil AF come on man like a stiff

721
00:29:58,269 --> 00:29:54,779
yeah no I thought I thought the video

722
00:30:02,690 --> 00:29:58,279
was frozen first I did too

723
00:30:05,149 --> 00:30:02,700
but oh hot dog yeah yeah interesting

724
00:30:07,370 --> 00:30:05,159
nonetheless I mean again anytime you can

725
00:30:09,889 --> 00:30:07,380
hear Chris Hadfield talk about UFOs and

726
00:30:10,970 --> 00:30:09,899
not like totally bash it I'm in I'm

727
00:30:14,750 --> 00:30:10,980
totally in

728
00:30:17,450 --> 00:30:14,760
um he brought up some good points uh I I

729
00:30:22,070 --> 00:30:17,460
want to mention stress one of them is

730
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:22,080
the statistics of like okay a Navy pilot

731
00:30:29,090 --> 00:30:26,460
sees the Tic Tac UFO and that's wow I'm

732
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:29,100
a soir on my own live stream that stuff

733
00:30:33,230 --> 00:30:31,740
goes viral and everyone's talking about

734
00:30:35,810 --> 00:30:33,240
this one event there's one event this

735
00:30:37,510 --> 00:30:35,820
one event but what about the hundreds of

736
00:30:40,310 --> 00:30:37,520
thousands of other training exercises

737
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:40,320
that didn't have a UFO setting what

738
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,360
about the hundreds of astronauts that

739
00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:44,880
never saw anything anomalous in space or

740
00:30:50,630 --> 00:30:46,860
the outer atmosphere

741
00:30:53,630 --> 00:30:50,640
um it's a good point but what about the

742
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:53,640
one percent that do you know that's kind

743
00:30:59,149 --> 00:30:56,399
of how I look at it I agree with you

744
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:59,159
yeah like I I his tune is changing

745
00:31:03,049 --> 00:31:01,200
because when I interviewed him about two

746
00:31:05,330 --> 00:31:03,059
years ago I think it's been two years

747
00:31:06,289 --> 00:31:05,340
ago or a year ago gosh I can't remember

748
00:31:09,769 --> 00:31:06,299
now

749
00:31:13,850 --> 00:31:12,049
um and so I yeah I've noticed because

750
00:31:15,230 --> 00:31:13,860
what at the end of the interview I

751
00:31:17,990 --> 00:31:15,240
brought up the UAP topic and you could

752
00:31:19,669 --> 00:31:18,000
tell he was just like oh God like damn I

753
00:31:21,409 --> 00:31:19,679
had to do that I know and he's just like

754
00:31:23,870 --> 00:31:21,419
really because we talked about like

755
00:31:26,090 --> 00:31:23,880
space Partnerships and you know and and

756
00:31:27,169 --> 00:31:26,100
whatnot um and then we went into UFOs

757
00:31:29,510 --> 00:31:27,179
because how could I not ask Chris

758
00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:29,520
Hadfield about UFOs it'd be crazy so his

759
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:32,159
tune has changed which is really nice

760
00:31:35,690 --> 00:31:34,080
um and to be honest it kind of has to

761
00:31:37,490 --> 00:31:35,700
because of what's going on in the media

762
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,500
you know he could still fight against it

763
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:39,360
which he was very smart when he

764
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:41,760
positioned his argument of saying that

765
00:31:45,529 --> 00:31:43,380
you know we don't think it's from you

766
00:31:49,870 --> 00:31:45,539
know Zeta reticula or another I think a

767
00:31:55,730 --> 00:31:52,330
well I I believe

768
00:31:59,389 --> 00:31:55,740
yeah but I think he yeah and and so he

769
00:32:00,649 --> 00:31:59,399
he he really ended up just saying there

770
00:32:02,090 --> 00:32:00,659
probably is something out there and

771
00:32:04,510 --> 00:32:02,100
other people have seen it we just don't

772
00:32:07,370 --> 00:32:04,520
think it's ET based and to be honest

773
00:32:09,470 --> 00:32:07,380
that conversation like

774
00:32:11,269 --> 00:32:09,480
you know personally I've been looking at

775
00:32:14,090 --> 00:32:11,279
I've always you know when I was a little

776
00:32:16,190 --> 00:32:14,100
kid E.T and the ET hypothesis and not

777
00:32:18,649 --> 00:32:16,200
saying it's not true just don't go

778
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:18,659
around there saying that tweeting at me

779
00:32:23,450 --> 00:32:21,360
um I was such a bigger believer in that

780
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:23,460
and you know wanted to follow that

781
00:32:26,630 --> 00:32:25,140
narrative and as I've grown I'm like

782
00:32:28,250 --> 00:32:26,640
whoa whoa whoa and we'll get into

783
00:32:30,769 --> 00:32:28,260
another clip of yours we can segue

784
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:30,779
literally into that but we're everyone

785
00:32:35,450 --> 00:32:33,020
who Harps so much on the ET

786
00:32:37,669 --> 00:32:35,460
hypothesis and to be honest I think

787
00:32:40,010 --> 00:32:37,679
there's so much more than that and

788
00:32:41,269 --> 00:32:40,020
everybody wants it to be ET and I find

789
00:32:44,510 --> 00:32:41,279
that really interesting and the culture

790
00:32:46,190 --> 00:32:44,520
feedback loops show us that that has

791
00:32:48,889 --> 00:32:46,200
always been that narrative is

792
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:48,899
consistently you know from the the 30s

793
00:32:54,289 --> 00:32:51,779
even from the 40s especially in the 50s

794
00:32:56,330 --> 00:32:54,299
later on going in the 60s and even guys

795
00:33:00,049 --> 00:32:56,340
strongly in the 80s in films and

796
00:33:02,029 --> 00:33:00,059
entertainment it's always been E.T so

797
00:33:03,710 --> 00:33:02,039
why are we looking at those other

798
00:33:05,450 --> 00:33:03,720
hypothesis more and I've said this in

799
00:33:07,730 --> 00:33:05,460
other podcasts too that I think we start

800
00:33:10,909 --> 00:33:07,740
have to you know instead of it being

801
00:33:13,669 --> 00:33:10,919
like UFOs and aliens are all into one we

802
00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:13,679
need to separate them more and look at

803
00:33:18,889 --> 00:33:16,620
it as UFOs as a bucket itself and then

804
00:33:20,690 --> 00:33:18,899
look at plausible other theories more

805
00:33:22,909 --> 00:33:20,700
often and have that pushed into the

806
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:22,919
mainstream and not just

807
00:33:27,350 --> 00:33:24,960
ET that's my thought and that's kind of

808
00:33:29,630 --> 00:33:27,360
what I think he's saying too it's not

809
00:33:31,250 --> 00:33:29,640
just that it can't be extraterrestrial

810
00:33:32,990 --> 00:33:31,260
but there's something going on we just

811
00:33:34,370 --> 00:33:33,000
don't know what it is yeah yeah well

812
00:33:37,549 --> 00:33:34,380
potentially we don't know what it is

813
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:37,559
right potentially yeah whatever's behind

814
00:33:41,269 --> 00:33:40,140
those astronaut ndas could be that

815
00:33:43,250 --> 00:33:41,279
potentially

816
00:33:46,070 --> 00:33:43,260
um thank you Jazz thank you so much for

817
00:33:48,710 --> 00:33:46,080
this 40 Super Chat always always

818
00:33:50,810 --> 00:33:48,720
appreciate your support man he says we

819
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:50,820
now know there are wolves in Upstate New

820
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:52,799
York again what about the thousands of

821
00:33:57,830 --> 00:33:55,080
hunters who never saw wolf illogical

822
00:33:59,210 --> 00:33:57,840
argument to me yeah it's a good it's a

823
00:34:03,289 --> 00:33:59,220
good point

824
00:34:05,090 --> 00:34:03,299
um again yeah just to hear uh just to

825
00:34:10,149 --> 00:34:05,100
hear I'm oh my God I forgot his name

826
00:34:16,250 --> 00:34:13,369
it's still early here it's crazy to me

827
00:34:18,050 --> 00:34:16,260
to know that like in the UK everyone's

828
00:34:20,810 --> 00:34:18,060
getting ready for bed and I'm literally

829
00:34:22,669 --> 00:34:20,820
just really just starting my day but um

830
00:34:23,869 --> 00:34:22,679
oh God it's really messing with my

831
00:34:25,129 --> 00:34:23,879
internal clock

832
00:34:28,369 --> 00:34:25,139
um Chris Hadfield

833
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,379
Chris Hadfield uh it's good to just hear

834
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:30,720
him talking about UFOs again and not

835
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:33,540
like rolling his eyes or hanging up on

836
00:34:39,109 --> 00:34:36,480
the interviewer or anything like that so

837
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:39,119
yeah yeah it's interesting

838
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:43,740
um well let's move on Chrissy to another

839
00:34:49,550 --> 00:34:46,740
place that's interesting Skinwalker

840
00:34:51,649 --> 00:34:49,560
Ranch a lot of talk new season is

841
00:34:54,889 --> 00:34:51,659
premiering in I think just a couple

842
00:34:57,050 --> 00:34:54,899
weeks now uh I I don't know if you saw

843
00:34:58,490 --> 00:34:57,060
the pilot yet or the premiere of season

844
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:58,500
five I haven't seen the premiere yet

845
00:35:02,990 --> 00:35:01,200
I've only to be honest I've watched the

846
00:35:04,430 --> 00:35:03,000
first season and I've watched a little

847
00:35:05,950 --> 00:35:04,440
bit of the second season this is the

848
00:35:08,750 --> 00:35:05,960
third season right

849
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:08,760
it's a fourth wow I'm a couple Seasons

850
00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:10,560
behind I have my own things with skin

851
00:35:15,230 --> 00:35:12,900
walker Ranch but no I've I haven't seen

852
00:35:16,310 --> 00:35:15,240
the the teaser it was emailed to me

853
00:35:18,950 --> 00:35:16,320
though I just haven't had time to watch

854
00:35:21,230 --> 00:35:18,960
it so I will um and I I might jump in

855
00:35:23,810 --> 00:35:21,240
this season and see yeah you should see

856
00:35:24,829 --> 00:35:23,820
what's like the season four premiere on

857
00:35:26,750 --> 00:35:24,839
the plane

858
00:35:30,290 --> 00:35:26,760
um I got a screener as well as you um

859
00:35:33,290 --> 00:35:30,300
God bless being in the pr world I guess

860
00:35:35,569 --> 00:35:33,300
and being next to you helps a lot

861
00:35:36,829 --> 00:35:35,579
to be completely honest um you helped me

862
00:35:40,130 --> 00:35:36,839
out a lot with that

863
00:35:43,069 --> 00:35:40,140
with that uh the premiere is really

864
00:35:45,170 --> 00:35:43,079
gonna surprise some people for sure

865
00:35:50,150 --> 00:35:45,180
um things are just amping up over there

866
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:50,160
at Skinwalker Ranch um but the

867
00:35:56,750 --> 00:35:52,920
um so this book comes out skinwalkers at

868
00:35:59,990 --> 00:35:56,760
the Pentagon by um James lukatsky George

869
00:36:02,990 --> 00:36:00,000
Knapp and um Callum calling her yes

870
00:36:06,530 --> 00:36:03,000
thank you and uh Sunday guys um names

871
00:36:08,030 --> 00:36:06,540
are just going right over my head today

872
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:08,040
um Colin Kelleher

873
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:09,900
Dino beavers

874
00:36:16,370 --> 00:36:12,540
buzzword when that book came out

875
00:36:20,510 --> 00:36:16,380
everyone was talking about diabet and

876
00:36:22,250 --> 00:36:20,520
um Dino beavers oh gosh we need to get

877
00:36:24,410 --> 00:36:22,260
the T-shirt I'm on it guys I'll get a

878
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:24,420
dino Beaver t-shirt in the semolina Sky

879
00:36:29,690 --> 00:36:25,680
shop soon

880
00:36:33,050 --> 00:36:29,700
um but maybe I shouldn't because I think

881
00:36:36,109 --> 00:36:33,060
the dino Beaver phenomenon has kind of

882
00:36:38,870 --> 00:36:36,119
been debunked and that comes from none

883
00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:38,880
other than Chris Bartel an employee that

884
00:36:44,030 --> 00:36:41,220
worked at Skinwalker Ranch also worked

885
00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:44,040
at area 51. what an interesting guy what

886
00:36:50,450 --> 00:36:46,680
an interesting life he has led um crazy

887
00:36:54,829 --> 00:36:50,460
crazy but uh he was recently on

888
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:54,839
it was the um strange Recon show a

889
00:36:59,930 --> 00:36:57,359
YouTube channel and he was talking about

890
00:37:02,210 --> 00:36:59,940
his time working at Area 51 working at

891
00:37:04,670 --> 00:37:02,220
Skinwalker Ranch and this topic came up

892
00:37:06,410 --> 00:37:04,680
uh the host asked you know what is up

893
00:37:08,210 --> 00:37:06,420
with a dino River like is this something

894
00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,220
you ever encountered because he worked

895
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:09,599
security

896
00:37:15,849 --> 00:37:13,079
um he was alone on Skinwalker Ranch this

897
00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,859
one security guy for like nights on end

898
00:37:20,630 --> 00:37:18,000
investigating stuff

899
00:37:24,230 --> 00:37:20,640
um looking for anomalous phenomena and

900
00:37:26,450 --> 00:37:24,240
he came up with some uh some interesting

901
00:37:29,750 --> 00:37:26,460
stuff uh while in his time there Chris

902
00:37:31,670 --> 00:37:29,760
Bartell and um again like everyone

903
00:37:34,849 --> 00:37:31,680
wanted to know Dino beavers what what's

904
00:37:37,250 --> 00:37:34,859
going on with this so I guess let's just

905
00:37:39,650 --> 00:37:37,260
play the clip and then um we'll discuss

906
00:37:42,890 --> 00:37:39,660
Dino beavers on the other end how's that

907
00:37:44,810 --> 00:37:42,900
sound that sounds good cool the specific

908
00:37:47,329 --> 00:37:44,820
area in the book where the talk about

909
00:37:50,270 --> 00:37:47,339
seeing the dino Beaver by Homestead two

910
00:37:52,430 --> 00:37:50,280
that's a location where on

911
00:37:53,930 --> 00:37:52,440
many I'm sure even the new team I'm sure

912
00:37:56,569 --> 00:37:53,940
even the new team now has probably

913
00:37:59,150 --> 00:37:56,579
documented the large porcupines that are

914
00:38:01,970 --> 00:37:59,160
on Skinwalker Ranch there's massive

915
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:01,980
large porcupines that inhabit that area

916
00:38:07,310 --> 00:38:04,500
of Utah specifically the ranch

917
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:07,320
and they move very slow and this kind of

918
00:38:11,030 --> 00:38:09,420
brings back to what I said before if you

919
00:38:12,950 --> 00:38:11,040
have somebody

920
00:38:14,630 --> 00:38:12,960
um who's born and raised in a city and

921
00:38:16,390 --> 00:38:14,640
has a scientific mindset and they put

922
00:38:18,710 --> 00:38:16,400
them out in the dark with a flashlight

923
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,720
and they're seeing these creatures with

924
00:38:22,730 --> 00:38:20,400
limited visibility

925
00:38:25,130 --> 00:38:22,740
it you know your imagination could let

926
00:38:26,930 --> 00:38:25,140
let wild you know I

927
00:38:28,970 --> 00:38:26,940
I saw firsthand we also had large

928
00:38:30,010 --> 00:38:28,980
beavers out there so I think that's

929
00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:30,020
probably a

930
00:38:34,190 --> 00:38:32,820
misinterpretation from uh previously

931
00:38:36,589 --> 00:38:34,200
written I don't believe there was a I

932
00:38:39,050 --> 00:38:36,599
never saw anything that remotely saw a

933
00:38:41,450 --> 00:38:39,060
dino beaver I will say this though

934
00:38:43,609 --> 00:38:41,460
not to try to discredit

935
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,619
um other people's experiences but I can

936
00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,359
only speak for myself but there was

937
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:47,760
another guy I knew who's tore up and

938
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:50,099
down he saw a frog with like an

939
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:52,920
alligator snout or something like that

940
00:38:56,510 --> 00:38:54,960
and this guy is from the country as well

941
00:38:57,950 --> 00:38:56,520
and when I when I kind of pressed him on

942
00:38:59,930 --> 00:38:57,960
it like dude are you full of [\h__\h] you

943
00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:59,940
know he was like no I'm serious I saw

944
00:39:03,710 --> 00:39:01,440
something that looked like

945
00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,720
you know once it once again it's up for

946
00:39:06,829 --> 00:39:05,460
interpretation did he get photographic

947
00:39:10,730 --> 00:39:06,839
evidence no

948
00:39:12,410 --> 00:39:10,740
so you know it was he by himself yes I

949
00:39:14,390 --> 00:39:12,420
mean so these things kind of happen but

950
00:39:15,829 --> 00:39:14,400
as far as the dino beaver I would most

951
00:39:18,410 --> 00:39:15,839
likely say that was probably one of the

952
00:39:21,770 --> 00:39:18,420
very large porcupines that inhabit that

953
00:39:23,270 --> 00:39:21,780
area I saw him at night out there and I

954
00:39:25,730 --> 00:39:23,280
would say they're huge they're very big

955
00:39:29,390 --> 00:39:25,740
and they move very slow and they operate

956
00:39:32,109 --> 00:39:29,400
they live exactly in that location so

957
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:36,950
yeah so I guess Dino fever debunked we

958
00:39:43,550 --> 00:39:39,920
can't say for sure obviously but um

959
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:43,560
sounds accurate I want to see a massive

960
00:39:48,290 --> 00:39:46,320
porcupine I was like that's yeah I'm

961
00:39:50,150 --> 00:39:48,300
like that's amazing it's maybe better

962
00:39:51,650 --> 00:39:50,160
than the dino Beaver I'm like because

963
00:39:54,109 --> 00:39:51,660
they're actually we know there exists so

964
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,119
I want to see one right but that sounds

965
00:39:58,190 --> 00:39:55,920
I don't know why Chris Bartel seems

966
00:40:00,109 --> 00:39:58,200
pretty on the nose with that but maybe

967
00:40:03,530 --> 00:40:00,119
they'll address this in the next season

968
00:40:06,050 --> 00:40:03,540
we'll see that's true and I know

969
00:40:07,490 --> 00:40:06,060
um you know Chris has Chris is very

970
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:07,500
grounded that's what I like about him

971
00:40:11,870 --> 00:40:09,540
like when he talks about skin walker

972
00:40:14,390 --> 00:40:11,880
Ranch and what he experienced there like

973
00:40:17,030 --> 00:40:14,400
yeah there were some weird stuff but he

974
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:17,040
always you know kind of prefaces that

975
00:40:21,050 --> 00:40:19,500
with but it could be this it could be a

976
00:40:23,810 --> 00:40:21,060
porcupine Nick

977
00:40:25,849 --> 00:40:23,820
um what he experienced could have been a

978
00:40:28,370 --> 00:40:25,859
wolf of some sort or some sort of

979
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:28,380
Predator that he just in the moment

980
00:40:33,650 --> 00:40:31,140
could not identify or explain he said

981
00:40:35,930 --> 00:40:33,660
some really weird experiences with what

982
00:40:37,670 --> 00:40:35,940
he believes are large canines or or

983
00:40:40,370 --> 00:40:37,680
wolves

984
00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:40,380
um there at the ranch too so

985
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:42,599
um I I think too a good point I don't

986
00:40:45,530 --> 00:40:43,859
know if that was in the beginning of the

987
00:40:49,010 --> 00:40:45,540
clip I I didn't miss it I was checking

988
00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:49,020
the chat but he does say like you know

989
00:40:54,770 --> 00:40:52,380
for a city person you know a scientist

990
00:40:57,050 --> 00:40:54,780
who's never really worked in the desert

991
00:40:59,210 --> 00:40:57,060
or worked in these different Landscapes

992
00:41:01,069 --> 00:40:59,220
um they wouldn't know what an actual

993
00:41:03,230 --> 00:41:01,079
porcupine looked like especially if it

994
00:41:05,270 --> 00:41:03,240
was that big so of course they're gonna

995
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:05,280
think it's some weird

996
00:41:10,670 --> 00:41:07,560
um Interstellar or intertimentional

997
00:41:13,130 --> 00:41:10,680
creature or Cryptid of some sort uh

998
00:41:14,630 --> 00:41:13,140
especially when they get that big

999
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:14,640
right and they're told that they're

1000
00:41:19,310 --> 00:41:16,440
there so people are going to think that

1001
00:41:20,810 --> 00:41:19,320
before you know a giant porcupine like

1002
00:41:24,290 --> 00:41:20,820
legitly I've done the same thing in my

1003
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:24,300
backyard in Toronto I was like it's like

1004
00:41:27,710 --> 00:41:25,680
what is this thing I went out at night

1005
00:41:30,290 --> 00:41:27,720
and I took a picture and I was like this

1006
00:41:32,750 --> 00:41:30,300
is the biggest rat I've ever seen and it

1007
00:41:34,670 --> 00:41:32,760
was huge it had a massive tail and I've

1008
00:41:36,290 --> 00:41:34,680
never seen a possum before but I was

1009
00:41:37,670 --> 00:41:36,300
like hold on is that a possum but I took

1010
00:41:40,550 --> 00:41:37,680
a picture of it because I was like this

1011
00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:40,560
thing looks insane and I was like a

1012
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,180
little it was just as scared as I was

1013
00:41:45,950 --> 00:41:44,640
and it was like a teenager possum but I

1014
00:41:47,569 --> 00:41:45,960
took a picture because I didn't I

1015
00:41:48,650 --> 00:41:47,579
couldn't identify it either and then I

1016
00:41:50,210 --> 00:41:48,660
sent it to a friend and I was like this

1017
00:41:51,710 --> 00:41:50,220
is a possum right and she's like yeah

1018
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:51,720
and she's like you've never seen one I

1019
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,640
said I've never seen a possum I've also

1020
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:55,680
have never seen a beaver in Canada too

1021
00:41:59,690 --> 00:41:57,240
surprising but I've seen moose and stuff

1022
00:42:01,069 --> 00:41:59,700
oh wow but right I know weird but the

1023
00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:01,079
same thing with a possum so I can see

1024
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:02,700
why you would misidentify it because I

1025
00:42:06,530 --> 00:42:04,740
thought it was like a ginormous rat and

1026
00:42:08,210 --> 00:42:06,540
I was like if rats it's some of the same

1027
00:42:10,069 --> 00:42:08,220
family but I was like if Toronto's

1028
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:10,079
getting rats this size I was like this

1029
00:42:14,030 --> 00:42:11,940
is getting scary because it was like

1030
00:42:16,370 --> 00:42:14,040
massive and it was like it was scary it

1031
00:42:17,630 --> 00:42:16,380
was a scary little thing but you know

1032
00:42:19,069 --> 00:42:17,640
and then when I got a little bit closer

1033
00:42:20,569 --> 00:42:19,079
he was cute because you could tell he

1034
00:42:22,490 --> 00:42:20,579
wasn't gonna try I don't think Boston's

1035
00:42:24,530 --> 00:42:22,500
attack from what I know

1036
00:42:25,970 --> 00:42:24,540
um I think they can be anyone we don't

1037
00:42:28,190 --> 00:42:25,980
need to go on the possible but exact

1038
00:42:29,990 --> 00:42:28,200
same kind of conversation it uh you

1039
00:42:31,310 --> 00:42:30,000
don't know right I just don't know you

1040
00:42:32,569 --> 00:42:31,320
know I grew up in the country but I'm

1041
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,579
still a city Folk and I didn't even know

1042
00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:35,040
it was in my backyard so yeah I think

1043
00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:36,240
you know if you're going to be out in

1044
00:42:39,290 --> 00:42:37,020
the middle of the night with a

1045
00:42:40,790 --> 00:42:39,300
flashlight you know straps sitting to a

1046
00:42:41,930 --> 00:42:40,800
chair doing a night watch you're

1047
00:42:44,329 --> 00:42:41,940
probably going to see some stuff that

1048
00:42:46,190 --> 00:42:44,339
you just can't identify makes sense and

1049
00:42:47,569 --> 00:42:46,200
also they were using it like they were

1050
00:42:49,069 --> 00:42:47,579
they didn't really I think they had

1051
00:42:51,589 --> 00:42:49,079
night vision right they had a specific

1052
00:42:53,210 --> 00:42:51,599
type of night vision that they used

1053
00:42:54,349 --> 00:42:53,220
um the night that they went out to go

1054
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:54,359
looking

1055
00:42:58,309 --> 00:42:55,680
um I think one of the final nights

1056
00:42:59,510 --> 00:42:58,319
within the the book they talk about it

1057
00:43:01,490 --> 00:42:59,520
um and I think he's referring to the

1058
00:43:03,770 --> 00:43:01,500
woman that was out there that was former

1059
00:43:05,690 --> 00:43:03,780
uh worked with the government Intel so I

1060
00:43:08,270 --> 00:43:05,700
think I can't remember who saw the dino

1061
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:08,280
the dino beaver in the book but he might

1062
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:10,859
be referring to her but it might have

1063
00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:13,440
been yeah or I think it was home

1064
00:43:18,829 --> 00:43:16,700
Kelleher actually who witnessed it um

1065
00:43:20,569 --> 00:43:18,839
it's been a while since I read the book

1066
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:20,579
but yeah no you bring up so many good

1067
00:43:24,050 --> 00:43:22,020
points especially if they're looking at

1068
00:43:26,809 --> 00:43:24,060
it in night vision like everything's

1069
00:43:29,510 --> 00:43:26,819
gonna be askewed and you're not gonna

1070
00:43:31,730 --> 00:43:29,520
really see the the thing for what it is

1071
00:43:35,210 --> 00:43:31,740
it's the same with like flear footage of

1072
00:43:39,290 --> 00:43:35,220
the UFO oh totally if we had the crystal

1073
00:43:42,170 --> 00:43:39,300
clear non-flear version of these things

1074
00:43:44,510 --> 00:43:42,180
um we would be able to probably deduce

1075
00:43:46,730 --> 00:43:44,520
better what it actually was however

1076
00:43:50,450 --> 00:43:46,740
that's just not what these targeting

1077
00:43:52,430 --> 00:43:50,460
pods do or or or you know what what I

1078
00:43:55,069 --> 00:43:52,440
guess uh what would you even call it

1079
00:43:56,930 --> 00:43:55,079
whatever like frame they're in when

1080
00:44:00,170 --> 00:43:56,940
they're they're recording these things

1081
00:44:02,690 --> 00:44:00,180
um so yeah yeah I uh I thought that was

1082
00:44:04,190 --> 00:44:02,700
an interesting clip to to show to the

1083
00:44:05,630 --> 00:44:04,200
audience because

1084
00:44:08,089 --> 00:44:05,640
um I kind of want to put this Dino

1085
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:08,099
beaver thing to rest it it ain't helping

1086
00:44:13,670 --> 00:44:09,680
skin walking

1087
00:44:15,410 --> 00:44:13,680
I'm just gonna no it's yeah it's not I

1088
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:15,420
would yeah I wouldn't think so too

1089
00:44:19,670 --> 00:44:17,760
especially if they're massive porcupines

1090
00:44:21,470 --> 00:44:19,680
out there like I didn't even when I was

1091
00:44:22,790 --> 00:44:21,480
in Utah I wish I now if I ever when I

1092
00:44:23,809 --> 00:44:22,800
was supposed to hopefully go back at one

1093
00:44:26,030 --> 00:44:23,819
point I'm going to be out in the look

1094
00:44:28,790 --> 00:44:26,040
for massive porcupines because I'd love

1095
00:44:31,309 --> 00:44:28,800
to see that it'd be amazing huge bring

1096
00:44:33,170 --> 00:44:31,319
one back to Toronto actually I'm like

1097
00:44:35,569 --> 00:44:33,180
strap them on my back everyone's gonna

1098
00:44:38,329 --> 00:44:35,579
be seeing Dino beavers now in Toronto

1099
00:44:41,329 --> 00:44:38,339
right it'll be hilarious

1100
00:44:43,790 --> 00:44:41,339
um awesome well hey let's move on to our

1101
00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:43,800
next clip and that actually comes from

1102
00:44:49,069 --> 00:44:46,079
your show

1103
00:44:51,770 --> 00:44:49,079
yay yay let me get this in here uh

1104
00:44:54,530 --> 00:44:51,780
rebelliously Curious with Chrissy Newton

1105
00:44:56,750 --> 00:44:54,540
you had Brian bender on

1106
00:44:59,390 --> 00:44:56,760
um I miss this guy you know he he's kind

1107
00:45:01,670 --> 00:44:59,400
of been radio silent for a while I know

1108
00:45:04,190 --> 00:45:01,680
he's transitioning into a new position

1109
00:45:06,170 --> 00:45:04,200
with another company right now

1110
00:45:07,430 --> 00:45:06,180
um no longer working for Politico as a

1111
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:07,440
reporter

1112
00:45:12,109 --> 00:45:10,440
um but you had him on your show and you

1113
00:45:15,410 --> 00:45:12,119
guys discussed a lot of different things

1114
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:15,420
uh including what Congress is really

1115
00:45:20,510 --> 00:45:17,760
interested in with UAP and what evidence

1116
00:45:22,309 --> 00:45:20,520
whistleblower laws could produce so I'm

1117
00:45:23,930 --> 00:45:22,319
gonna go ahead and play the clip and

1118
00:45:26,329 --> 00:45:23,940
yeah I just kind of want to get your um

1119
00:45:27,710 --> 00:45:26,339
your broad overview on how that

1120
00:45:30,170 --> 00:45:27,720
interview went

1121
00:45:31,609 --> 00:45:30,180
um so let's go ahead and play that and

1122
00:45:33,050 --> 00:45:31,619
yeah talk about it on the other side

1123
00:45:35,270 --> 00:45:33,060
guys

1124
00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:35,280
I think Congress

1125
00:45:41,150 --> 00:45:38,760
is really focused on the advanced

1126
00:45:42,890 --> 00:45:41,160
technology aspect of this

1127
00:45:44,450 --> 00:45:42,900
obviously they're concerned if it's just

1128
00:45:46,550 --> 00:45:44,460
a mundane drone and the Chinese are

1129
00:45:47,870 --> 00:45:46,560
flying it over our you know our balloon

1130
00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:47,880
and flying it over our sensitive

1131
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:49,740
facilities but if you read the language

1132
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,720
they want to know are there secret

1133
00:45:56,329 --> 00:45:53,040
programs

1134
00:45:58,609 --> 00:45:56,339
foreign or domestic are there things

1135
00:46:01,069 --> 00:45:58,619
that crash that we might have learned

1136
00:46:03,890 --> 00:46:01,079
from things from and you know wild away

1137
00:46:05,870 --> 00:46:03,900
somewhere in a secret tanker somewhere I

1138
00:46:08,870 --> 00:46:05,880
mean they really want to get at the idea

1139
00:46:10,670 --> 00:46:08,880
of is there an advanced technology that

1140
00:46:12,829 --> 00:46:10,680
we don't know about that somebody here

1141
00:46:15,349 --> 00:46:12,839
on Earth has developed or

1142
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:15,359
big question mark somebody else has and

1143
00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:16,740
that's where the Whistleblower

1144
00:46:20,690 --> 00:46:18,480
protection provision comes in that you

1145
00:46:22,010 --> 00:46:20,700
mentioned which is if you're in the

1146
00:46:24,950 --> 00:46:22,020
government or you were in the government

1147
00:46:26,569 --> 00:46:24,960
and you know something come tell us and

1148
00:46:29,210 --> 00:46:26,579
we promise not to throw you in jail for

1149
00:46:31,010 --> 00:46:29,220
it and so that to me is going to be the

1150
00:46:33,109 --> 00:46:31,020
most interesting piece of this perhaps

1151
00:46:34,730 --> 00:46:33,119
which is I don't know how much we the

1152
00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:34,740
public will get to know about that but

1153
00:46:38,329 --> 00:46:37,079
who does come forward what do they have

1154
00:46:39,349 --> 00:46:38,339
to say

1155
00:46:41,329 --> 00:46:39,359
um

1156
00:46:43,550 --> 00:46:41,339
and and also quite frankly how many

1157
00:46:45,170 --> 00:46:43,560
incredible and how many are Kooks and

1158
00:46:47,270 --> 00:46:45,180
that's another thing that I talk about a

1159
00:46:49,550 --> 00:46:47,280
lot which is people assume just because

1160
00:46:51,890 --> 00:46:49,560
you worked at the CIA or NASA or the

1161
00:46:52,849 --> 00:46:51,900
Pentagon and you have a great story did

1162
00:46:55,309 --> 00:46:52,859
you know what the hell you're talking

1163
00:46:56,990 --> 00:46:55,319
about I mean these are hundreds of

1164
00:46:58,970 --> 00:46:57,000
thousands of people that have worked in

1165
00:47:01,730 --> 00:46:58,980
these agencies and they're human beings

1166
00:47:04,309 --> 00:47:01,740
too and I always ask people who have

1167
00:47:06,109 --> 00:47:04,319
some Fantastical testimony about I heard

1168
00:47:07,730 --> 00:47:06,119
this or I heard that well who did you

1169
00:47:10,490 --> 00:47:07,740
hear it from did you see it with your

1170
00:47:13,250 --> 00:47:10,500
own eyes were you briefed on it in a in

1171
00:47:15,950 --> 00:47:13,260
a in a skiff a secret compartmentalized

1172
00:47:18,589 --> 00:47:15,960
information facility you know how do you

1173
00:47:20,030 --> 00:47:18,599
know this because you and I could have a

1174
00:47:21,530 --> 00:47:20,040
beer and talk about a lot of things we

1175
00:47:22,550 --> 00:47:21,540
heard but it doesn't mean they're true

1176
00:47:25,309 --> 00:47:22,560
right

1177
00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:25,319
um and I'll be interested to see how

1178
00:47:30,050 --> 00:47:26,700
challenging it will be for this

1179
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,060
whistleblower thing to weed out the BS

1180
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:32,160
because you know who knows I mean people

1181
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,260
could come forward claiming a lot of

1182
00:47:38,030 --> 00:47:36,480
things that they hurt them on

1183
00:47:41,530 --> 00:47:38,040
that doesn't mean that they actually

1184
00:47:48,589 --> 00:47:45,230
all right so great way to end that I

1185
00:47:52,569 --> 00:47:48,599
know and he brings up a very valid point

1186
00:47:55,190 --> 00:47:52,579
now we know arrow is now interviewing

1187
00:47:57,829 --> 00:47:55,200
individuals who've been a part of um

1188
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:57,839
sensitive military installation UFO

1189
00:48:01,309 --> 00:47:59,040
events

1190
00:48:02,870 --> 00:48:01,319
um you know we had Mario Woods a

1191
00:48:04,609 --> 00:48:02,880
gentleman on who worked at a nuclear

1192
00:48:05,690 --> 00:48:04,619
installation elsewhere at the Air Force

1193
00:48:07,309 --> 00:48:05,700
Space

1194
00:48:09,309 --> 00:48:07,319
um had him on recently on somewhere in

1195
00:48:12,230 --> 00:48:09,319
the sky is talking all about his

1196
00:48:15,290 --> 00:48:12,240
very weird missing time experience he

1197
00:48:17,569 --> 00:48:15,300
had at that base and um you know where

1198
00:48:20,690 --> 00:48:17,579
the security was tripped at a nuclear

1199
00:48:21,530 --> 00:48:20,700
installation and a UFO was seen over the

1200
00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:21,540
site

1201
00:48:25,309 --> 00:48:23,160
um and then he had weird missing time

1202
00:48:26,270 --> 00:48:25,319
and doesn't remember really what

1203
00:48:29,270 --> 00:48:26,280
happened

1204
00:48:31,250 --> 00:48:29,280
um in that missing time he he he's gone

1205
00:48:33,770 --> 00:48:31,260
under hypnotic regression and he thinks

1206
00:48:35,809 --> 00:48:33,780
he knows kind of what happened uh that's

1207
00:48:37,930 --> 00:48:35,819
his own personal story

1208
00:48:40,609 --> 00:48:37,940
um but he

1209
00:48:43,130 --> 00:48:40,619
texted me I want to say two days ago and

1210
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:43,140
said I did it I I talked to Arrow I was

1211
00:48:46,490 --> 00:48:44,520
on the phone with them for three and a

1212
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:46,500
half hours and I gave my entire

1213
00:48:49,190 --> 00:48:47,760
testimony

1214
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,200
um so they're doing it they are

1215
00:48:53,809 --> 00:48:51,440
proactively I I guess I should say

1216
00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:53,819
retroactively interviewing these people

1217
00:48:58,849 --> 00:48:56,760
about their their incidents um

1218
00:49:01,130 --> 00:48:58,859
however and this does not take anything

1219
00:49:03,770 --> 00:49:01,140
away from Mario's experience or the many

1220
00:49:06,589 --> 00:49:03,780
other people Arrow are speaking to

1221
00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:06,599
um you don't know what they saw you

1222
00:49:10,970 --> 00:49:08,700
don't know if what they saw

1223
00:49:13,190 --> 00:49:10,980
um if they misidentified something

1224
00:49:14,329 --> 00:49:13,200
um you know Mick West would say just

1225
00:49:16,970 --> 00:49:14,339
because they're a pilot doesn't mean

1226
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:16,980
they can't make mistakes and he's right

1227
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:18,180
however

1228
00:49:25,370 --> 00:49:23,280
observers who are supposed to be looking

1229
00:49:27,069 --> 00:49:25,380
for things out of the ordinary and and

1230
00:49:30,170 --> 00:49:27,079
can identify

1231
00:49:30,770 --> 00:49:30,180
99.9 of the stuff out there

1232
00:49:33,410 --> 00:49:30,780
um

1233
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:33,420
you do tend to give them a bit more

1234
00:49:37,790 --> 00:49:35,760
credibility when they say that they they

1235
00:49:38,809 --> 00:49:37,800
saw something that they can readily

1236
00:49:40,490 --> 00:49:38,819
explain

1237
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,500
um but yeah Bender brought up a really

1238
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:42,000
interesting point like we don't know if

1239
00:49:52,790 --> 00:49:50,210
what did you think about some of those

1240
00:49:55,190 --> 00:49:52,800
things I agree with you no I agree with

1241
00:49:56,510 --> 00:49:55,200
you I think that for sure there's people

1242
00:49:58,790 --> 00:49:56,520
that are having experiences that are

1243
00:50:01,490 --> 00:49:58,800
going forward and that's why we have

1244
00:50:04,130 --> 00:50:01,500
legislation that says that you know

1245
00:50:06,829 --> 00:50:04,140
that's why legislation is is protecting

1246
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:06,839
people to come forward because it's not

1247
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:09,180
again it's not a you know I park back

1248
00:50:13,970 --> 00:50:11,339
again to to bookend my my first comment

1249
00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:13,980
that it doesn't mean that it's UAP based

1250
00:50:17,390 --> 00:50:15,420
the reason why they're doing this is

1251
00:50:20,089 --> 00:50:17,400
that so Pilots can come forward if they

1252
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,099
see anything and again back to this

1253
00:50:23,329 --> 00:50:21,839
conversation of foreign adversaries we

1254
00:50:25,309 --> 00:50:23,339
live in a world right now where Russia

1255
00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:25,319
and China and close to going to

1256
00:50:30,890 --> 00:50:28,560
potential war with China is scary and

1257
00:50:32,569 --> 00:50:30,900
you know we've had balloons uh spy

1258
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:32,579
balloons from China there's a lot going

1259
00:50:38,270 --> 00:50:35,579
on so that question about Pilots seeing

1260
00:50:39,650 --> 00:50:38,280
stuff from past to now present and be

1261
00:50:41,690 --> 00:50:39,660
able to have those rights to be able to

1262
00:50:44,930 --> 00:50:41,700
come forward and say I've seen something

1263
00:50:46,790 --> 00:50:44,940
and I want to express what that is and I

1264
00:50:48,829 --> 00:50:46,800
don't know what it is and I have never

1265
00:50:50,150 --> 00:50:48,839
seen something like that before it gives

1266
00:50:52,010 --> 00:50:50,160
the ability for Congress and everyone

1267
00:50:53,930 --> 00:50:52,020
else to do their jobs better to really

1268
00:50:55,970 --> 00:50:53,940
look into what that might be and that

1269
00:50:58,849 --> 00:50:55,980
could be a threat and it could help

1270
00:51:02,270 --> 00:50:58,859
protect you know um if it's the states

1271
00:51:04,130 --> 00:51:02,280
or North America in general so that's

1272
00:51:06,589 --> 00:51:04,140
why that's there you know outside of

1273
00:51:08,870 --> 00:51:06,599
UFOs the most interesting part now is

1274
00:51:11,089 --> 00:51:08,880
just the legislation and the words that

1275
00:51:13,490 --> 00:51:11,099
they use and that's a part of it of

1276
00:51:15,950 --> 00:51:13,500
Crash retrievals and back engineering

1277
00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:15,960
those are words that are used though

1278
00:51:20,990 --> 00:51:19,200
within Intel and Jay Stratton does speak

1279
00:51:22,970 --> 00:51:21,000
to this in the interview that he did his

1280
00:51:25,250 --> 00:51:22,980
first interviews ever did on camera with

1281
00:51:27,650 --> 00:51:25,260
George Knapp and I believe it's Jeremy

1282
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,660
corbell's podcast weaponized they speak

1283
00:51:32,089 --> 00:51:29,760
about you know that we use these words

1284
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:32,099
are used right to be able to explain

1285
00:51:35,210 --> 00:51:33,599
like what's going on in foreign

1286
00:51:38,030 --> 00:51:35,220
adversary reverse engineering when it

1287
00:51:39,290 --> 00:51:38,040
comes to psychology of how Wars work how

1288
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:39,300
how someone's going to potentially

1289
00:51:43,970 --> 00:51:41,280
attack another country they reverse

1290
00:51:45,650 --> 00:51:43,980
engineer all that stuff so going now

1291
00:51:47,329 --> 00:51:45,660
with that said going into it those

1292
00:51:50,030 --> 00:51:47,339
things make sense why we have that in

1293
00:51:52,430 --> 00:51:50,040
legislation and moving forward there are

1294
00:51:54,349 --> 00:51:52,440
people though that can make up lies and

1295
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,359
why wouldn't they just because they work

1296
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:57,359
for Intel and lots of people work for

1297
00:52:01,609 --> 00:51:59,880
Intel uh it's not just the ones that

1298
00:52:03,410 --> 00:52:01,619
we've seen there's so many of them in

1299
00:52:04,430 --> 00:52:03,420
different departments and people that

1300
00:52:06,470 --> 00:52:04,440
have worked with government people that

1301
00:52:08,990 --> 00:52:06,480
worked on bases who says they're not

1302
00:52:10,910 --> 00:52:09,000
going to lie you know people lie all the

1303
00:52:12,710 --> 00:52:10,920
time and unfortunately we try to

1304
00:52:14,329 --> 00:52:12,720
unfortunately we don't always believe

1305
00:52:15,890 --> 00:52:14,339
them when we try to get you know the

1306
00:52:17,690 --> 00:52:15,900
facts first and give them the right to

1307
00:52:19,370 --> 00:52:17,700
speak but then for sure it has to be

1308
00:52:20,750 --> 00:52:19,380
analyzed because the scariest thing to

1309
00:52:23,870 --> 00:52:20,760
happen I think is stuff to go through

1310
00:52:26,089 --> 00:52:23,880
Congress and then come forward you know

1311
00:52:28,010 --> 00:52:26,099
after for 72 hours I believe how it

1312
00:52:30,049 --> 00:52:28,020
works is that you have seven it's

1313
00:52:33,349 --> 00:52:30,059
reported to Sean kirpatrick I do not

1314
00:52:35,329 --> 00:52:33,359
know who pushes it to to Congress

1315
00:52:37,130 --> 00:52:35,339
um then 72 hours we don't know what

1316
00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:37,140
activates the 72 hours and that's a

1317
00:52:41,089 --> 00:52:38,700
question that I've been trying to get

1318
00:52:43,010 --> 00:52:41,099
answers to so far about within that

1319
00:52:44,569 --> 00:52:43,020
legislation when does it get pushed to

1320
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,579
Congress you can get you know all these

1321
00:52:48,829 --> 00:52:46,319
testimonies and I think there's been 11

1322
00:52:51,589 --> 00:52:48,839
so far but then what is that 72-hour

1323
00:52:52,910 --> 00:52:51,599
moment that pushes it forward so that we

1324
00:52:54,290 --> 00:52:52,920
that goes to Congress and then from

1325
00:52:55,430 --> 00:52:54,300
Congress it goes to the president and

1326
00:52:56,630 --> 00:52:55,440
then I believe the president then

1327
00:52:58,190 --> 00:52:56,640
decides something classified or

1328
00:53:00,349 --> 00:52:58,200
classified from from what I know reading

1329
00:53:02,210 --> 00:53:00,359
legislation but again I'm not a lawyer

1330
00:53:04,490 --> 00:53:02,220
this is what I've broken down with Dr

1331
00:53:06,349 --> 00:53:04,500
Gene Johnston myself

1332
00:53:08,569 --> 00:53:06,359
um and also just asked other people that

1333
00:53:10,730 --> 00:53:08,579
are related to government about the

1334
00:53:12,349 --> 00:53:10,740
thoughts on this so I've had some great

1335
00:53:14,510 --> 00:53:12,359
eyes on it and some great perspectives

1336
00:53:16,910 --> 00:53:14,520
but we do have to be mindful and I'll

1337
00:53:19,010 --> 00:53:16,920
stop my rant after this is that once we

1338
00:53:21,230 --> 00:53:19,020
get into Congress what information is

1339
00:53:23,630 --> 00:53:21,240
going to be pushed forward and if they

1340
00:53:26,210 --> 00:53:23,640
are lies and that goes then to into

1341
00:53:28,069 --> 00:53:26,220
Political local hands it's very scary

1342
00:53:30,349 --> 00:53:28,079
you know and then it gets to media and

1343
00:53:32,270 --> 00:53:30,359
then we have all this misinformation or

1344
00:53:33,890 --> 00:53:32,280
disinformation that might that could not

1345
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:33,900
be intentional from the government that

1346
00:53:37,970 --> 00:53:36,240
might come forward so we have to be

1347
00:53:39,890 --> 00:53:37,980
really mindful of that just because this

1348
00:53:42,290 --> 00:53:39,900
stuff is coming forward we have to be

1349
00:53:44,030 --> 00:53:42,300
people have to be their own journalists

1350
00:53:46,609 --> 00:53:44,040
and look at this and be able to really

1351
00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,619
weed things apart and I'm hoping from

1352
00:53:50,329 --> 00:53:48,480
what I know Sean Kirkpatrick is more of

1353
00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:50,339
a skeptic than he is anything else and I

1354
00:53:55,069 --> 00:53:52,619
actually respect that as a physicist and

1355
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,079
a scientist I hope that he does his best

1356
00:53:58,370 --> 00:53:56,880
weeding out those conversations and then

1357
00:54:00,370 --> 00:53:58,380
deciding what's the best things to go in

1358
00:54:03,349 --> 00:54:00,380
front of Congress and the president

1359
00:54:06,049 --> 00:54:03,359
absolutely uh you eat so many good

1360
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:06,059
points Chrissy um well and and you're

1361
00:54:10,190 --> 00:54:08,160
right I think being a scientist helps a

1362
00:54:12,410 --> 00:54:10,200
lot too the fact that he's not in

1363
00:54:13,670 --> 00:54:12,420
military per se right means we're not

1364
00:54:15,950 --> 00:54:13,680
going to get that

1365
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:15,960
um that slant we're not going to get

1366
00:54:22,270 --> 00:54:18,800
that um sort of military

1367
00:54:25,549 --> 00:54:22,280
industrial complex Narrative of like oh

1368
00:54:27,230 --> 00:54:25,559
no it's like okay what what Maneuvers

1369
00:54:30,109 --> 00:54:27,240
are these craft making what kind of

1370
00:54:33,049 --> 00:54:30,119
physics does that represent um how could

1371
00:54:34,910 --> 00:54:33,059
that be uh in terms of How It's

1372
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:34,920
displayed to us how could we benefit

1373
00:54:41,150 --> 00:54:38,400
from that um uh unfortunately probably

1374
00:54:42,049 --> 00:54:41,160
militarily but also in other ways as

1375
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,059
well

1376
00:54:46,970 --> 00:54:44,400
um expanding our understanding of what

1377
00:54:49,250 --> 00:54:46,980
physics can truly do uh I think you're

1378
00:54:51,170 --> 00:54:49,260
right I think it's good that this is in

1379
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,180
Kirkpatrick's hands I know a lot of

1380
00:54:55,430 --> 00:54:53,040
people are concerned

1381
00:54:57,470 --> 00:54:55,440
um about how come there's like nowhere

1382
00:55:00,290 --> 00:54:57,480
for these people to report this stuff

1383
00:55:03,410 --> 00:55:00,300
it's only if Arrow reaches out to you

1384
00:55:06,950 --> 00:55:03,420
it's not like there's no hotline to call

1385
00:55:08,930 --> 00:55:06,960
like oh yeah yo I was in Vietnam and I

1386
00:55:10,250 --> 00:55:08,940
had this crazy experience

1387
00:55:12,650 --> 00:55:10,260
um I want to tell you about it or

1388
00:55:15,609 --> 00:55:12,660
there's not like any email address you

1389
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:15,619
know for Arrow uh maybe there is Arrow

1390
00:55:20,329 --> 00:55:18,480
gmail.com maybe I don't know I just made

1391
00:55:22,609 --> 00:55:20,339
that up but um

1392
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:22,619
but it is interesting you know that it's

1393
00:55:31,430 --> 00:55:29,329
arrow is so Cloak and Dagger still oh

1394
00:55:34,190 --> 00:55:31,440
like they set up a Twitter account and

1395
00:55:37,130 --> 00:55:34,200
they've tweeted once since then so I

1396
00:55:38,809 --> 00:55:37,140
have my concerns but at the same time it

1397
00:55:40,849 --> 00:55:38,819
also shows that they're being careful

1398
00:55:43,250 --> 00:55:40,859
you know they're not playing all their

1399
00:55:44,990 --> 00:55:43,260
cards publicly yet and a part of me

1400
00:55:48,829 --> 00:55:45,000
respects that too

1401
00:55:50,329 --> 00:55:48,839
um yeah science first right that's what

1402
00:55:51,890 --> 00:55:50,339
I think he's trying to do I would say

1403
00:55:54,049 --> 00:55:51,900
Sean Kirkpatrick with the physics backs

1404
00:55:56,750 --> 00:55:54,059
around which I respect but you're right

1405
00:55:58,849 --> 00:55:56,760
there is typical of the government you

1406
00:56:01,130 --> 00:55:58,859
know it's very slow roll out so maybe

1407
00:56:02,510 --> 00:56:01,140
the next phase after they've heard all

1408
00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:02,520
these stories and they're like you know

1409
00:56:06,049 --> 00:56:03,960
what let's just go to phase one and

1410
00:56:08,150 --> 00:56:06,059
collect everybody and hear what they're

1411
00:56:10,069 --> 00:56:08,160
saying and then maybe phase two will be

1412
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:10,079
this because of demand and what people

1413
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:12,180
want is somewhere that people

1414
00:56:15,770 --> 00:56:14,339
um obviously can reach out the thing is

1415
00:56:18,049 --> 00:56:15,780
though if it happened now they would

1416
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:18,059
probably just be inundated so I think

1417
00:56:21,710 --> 00:56:19,680
what they're doing is doing their

1418
00:56:24,230 --> 00:56:21,720
research first talking to people

1419
00:56:25,670 --> 00:56:24,240
understanding more and then moving

1420
00:56:26,750 --> 00:56:25,680
forward right

1421
00:56:28,069 --> 00:56:26,760
um but I don't you know I don't know

1422
00:56:29,450 --> 00:56:28,079
I've heard really you know negative

1423
00:56:30,829 --> 00:56:29,460
things about error too but people have

1424
00:56:32,809 --> 00:56:30,839
to realize that you know air doesn't

1425
00:56:34,849 --> 00:56:32,819
even have a budget I found that out gosh

1426
00:56:36,290 --> 00:56:34,859
like I think about a month ago that I

1427
00:56:38,270 --> 00:56:36,300
found out that they have no budget at

1428
00:56:39,770 --> 00:56:38,280
all so and I talk about that I'm an

1429
00:56:42,230 --> 00:56:39,780
interview with Brian Bender

1430
00:56:43,730 --> 00:56:42,240
um because budget does help you know to

1431
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:43,740
do things and move things and make it

1432
00:56:47,930 --> 00:56:46,260
quicker right it get people

1433
00:56:49,790 --> 00:56:47,940
um you can pay you can get paid for more

1434
00:56:51,710 --> 00:56:49,800
help so I really don't know how many

1435
00:56:53,390 --> 00:56:51,720
people work in the arrow office if it's

1436
00:56:56,089 --> 00:56:53,400
just Sean and maybe one other person

1437
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:56,099
like I have no idea personally how many

1438
00:57:00,410 --> 00:56:57,839
are collectively there so it's going to

1439
00:57:01,609 --> 00:57:00,420
take time for people even if there are a

1440
00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:01,619
couple people they're probably working

1441
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:04,619
on other things so with no budget means

1442
00:57:09,410 --> 00:57:07,260
you know less information roll out so

1443
00:57:11,270 --> 00:57:09,420
that's it and I'm not trying to like you

1444
00:57:12,589 --> 00:57:11,280
know being like Oh Arrow government's

1445
00:57:14,329 --> 00:57:12,599
amazing everything else it's just kind

1446
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,339
of what I what I've known to date just

1447
00:57:19,130 --> 00:57:16,559
saying what I've heard for as facts so

1448
00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:19,140
but I agree oh I'm I'm still watching

1449
00:57:23,329 --> 00:57:20,940
him you know I'm still watching what

1450
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,339
they're doing because I'm curious and so

1451
00:57:26,990 --> 00:57:25,440
far it's been slow but we'll see you

1452
00:57:29,809 --> 00:57:27,000
know and he also didn't write the last

1453
00:57:31,670 --> 00:57:29,819
report he didn't write that it's uh I

1454
00:57:33,470 --> 00:57:31,680
believe he will write his first UAP

1455
00:57:34,609 --> 00:57:33,480
report that's going to come out I don't

1456
00:57:37,069 --> 00:57:34,619
know when the next one is I have to

1457
00:57:38,450 --> 00:57:37,079
check that the next date

1458
00:57:40,190 --> 00:57:38,460
um but when that comes out that will be

1459
00:57:41,690 --> 00:57:40,200
from Sean kirpatrick and that will be

1460
00:57:44,329 --> 00:57:41,700
interesting when we should look at both

1461
00:57:45,290 --> 00:57:44,339
of those side by side to see what the

1462
00:57:47,809 --> 00:57:45,300
difference is and what the similar

1463
00:57:49,670 --> 00:57:47,819
polarities are and how if the narrative

1464
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,680
is changed or what has changed because

1465
00:57:53,690 --> 00:57:51,839
you know is there going to be more

1466
00:57:55,010 --> 00:57:53,700
balloons less balloons are we going to

1467
00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:55,020
have are we going to be now because

1468
00:58:00,589 --> 00:57:57,960
we've opened up these parameters now

1469
00:58:02,270 --> 00:58:00,599
within the states has and NORAD that we

1470
00:58:04,010 --> 00:58:02,280
can actually look and identify balloons

1471
00:58:06,530 --> 00:58:04,020
because balloons were never in that and

1472
00:58:08,569 --> 00:58:06,540
captured in that so now we'll have that

1473
00:58:10,549 --> 00:58:08,579
in the data so we'll be able to identify

1474
00:58:12,470 --> 00:58:10,559
so will those numbers go down or are

1475
00:58:14,750 --> 00:58:12,480
they going to stay consistent and I'd be

1476
00:58:18,109 --> 00:58:14,760
curious to see what that looks like ah

1477
00:58:21,530 --> 00:58:18,119
rebellious I know curious per chance

1478
00:58:24,349 --> 00:58:21,540
it's just I had to I'm sorry I had to

1479
00:58:26,510 --> 00:58:24,359
um well oh my gosh yeah so many good

1480
00:58:29,329 --> 00:58:26,520
points that next report is going to be

1481
00:58:32,150 --> 00:58:29,339
very vital I think the oh yeah with the

1482
00:58:36,230 --> 00:58:32,160
perception of Arrow moving forward and I

1483
00:58:40,010 --> 00:58:36,240
know Jilla brand was really going

1484
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:40,020
aggressively this week in Congress and

1485
00:58:46,490 --> 00:58:43,200
um really putting put it in her neck out

1486
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:46,500
there and not taking [\h__\h] from anyone

1487
00:58:53,089 --> 00:58:50,640
she said we need a budget give us a GD

1488
00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:53,099
budget right now and they like just off

1489
00:58:57,950 --> 00:58:55,380
the top of their head we're like uh okay

1490
00:59:00,950 --> 00:58:57,960
11 million dollars here here take it and

1491
00:59:04,309 --> 00:59:00,960
I'm like 11 million come on guys come on

1492
00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:04,319
like you'll spend a billion dollars on

1493
00:59:09,890 --> 00:59:06,900
like a McDonald's in one of your Air

1494
00:59:12,530 --> 00:59:09,900
Force bases give Arrow what they need

1495
00:59:14,329 --> 00:59:12,540
please please please please but I'm so

1496
00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,339
happy to see her continuing to just

1497
00:59:18,710 --> 00:59:16,799
fight the fight and also what happened

1498
00:59:20,210 --> 00:59:18,720
just recently a couple months months ago

1499
00:59:22,670 --> 00:59:20,220
do you not think you would give Arrow

1500
00:59:24,170 --> 00:59:22,680
more money like it really makes yeah it

1501
00:59:26,210 --> 00:59:24,180
just makes sense that you'd be like well

1502
00:59:27,530 --> 00:59:26,220
you know we and I find that interesting

1503
00:59:29,210 --> 00:59:27,540
too the timeline my own little

1504
00:59:30,770 --> 00:59:29,220
conspiracy on that side is like what's

1505
00:59:32,150 --> 00:59:30,780
how did that happen is that a

1506
00:59:33,770 --> 00:59:32,160
coincidence that that's written in the

1507
00:59:36,349 --> 00:59:33,780
legislation then literally a month later

1508
00:59:38,450 --> 00:59:36,359
we have like the words we're using UAP

1509
00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:38,460
within the government in the White House

1510
00:59:43,549 --> 00:59:41,160
and uh within the Pentagon along with

1511
00:59:45,770 --> 00:59:43,559
media using the word like flying objects

1512
00:59:47,690 --> 00:59:45,780
and you know um when I was in Washington

1513
00:59:48,589 --> 00:59:47,700
I grabbed a paper that was the hill that

1514
00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:48,599
said

1515
00:59:52,010 --> 00:59:49,980
um I think Congress wants to know more

1516
00:59:53,089 --> 00:59:52,020
about flying objects or something like

1517
01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:53,099
that

1518
01:00:02,329 --> 01:00:00,180
time now is obviously put in legislation

1519
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:02,339
but then something so fast happens right

1520
01:00:06,650 --> 01:00:03,839
and we have these New York press

1521
01:00:08,990 --> 01:00:06,660
conferences so yes it makes sense that

1522
01:00:10,849 --> 01:00:09,000
arrows should be funded to a degree to

1523
01:00:13,190 --> 01:00:10,859
start them off because look what just

1524
01:00:14,870 --> 01:00:13,200
happened you know we spend how much

1525
01:00:17,450 --> 01:00:14,880
money did the state Sonora had spend

1526
01:00:19,549 --> 01:00:17,460
shooting down balloons and you know UAP

1527
01:00:21,170 --> 01:00:19,559
objects that are anomalous you know I

1528
01:00:23,450 --> 01:00:21,180
think we can put a little bit that into

1529
01:00:26,329 --> 01:00:23,460
hopefully tracking and not shooting down

1530
01:00:28,190 --> 01:00:26,339
things that we don't poppy balloons or

1531
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:28,200
whatever it is let's just let's just

1532
01:00:33,230 --> 01:00:30,960
divert the money to other places that

1533
01:00:35,510 --> 01:00:33,240
actually need it right let's try

1534
01:00:38,270 --> 01:00:35,520
investigating guys before shooting for

1535
01:00:41,030 --> 01:00:38,280
once America please please I guess

1536
01:00:43,210 --> 01:00:41,040
Canada too I mean yeah oh yeah we were

1537
01:00:46,010 --> 01:00:43,220
in it too yeah

1538
01:00:47,809 --> 01:00:46,020
I was like what's going on I know I'm

1539
01:00:49,609 --> 01:00:47,819
like this is crazy it was a crazy week

1540
01:00:51,049 --> 01:00:49,619
everyone's messaging me being like you

1541
01:00:52,730 --> 01:00:51,059
must be like on top of this yeah I'm

1542
01:00:56,089 --> 01:00:52,740
like I'm a more flabbergasted than

1543
01:00:57,650 --> 01:00:56,099
anything I said so we all were it was a

1544
01:00:59,930 --> 01:00:57,660
crazy couple weeks there and then it

1545
01:01:01,549 --> 01:00:59,940
kind of just mysteriously faded away

1546
01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:01,559
Into Obscurity

1547
01:01:05,150 --> 01:01:03,359
um so we'll see we'll see in the summer

1548
01:01:07,309 --> 01:01:05,160
time maybe that's we always get a lift

1549
01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:07,319
in the summer there's always that summer

1550
01:01:12,109 --> 01:01:09,660
surprise as Bryce is able would say yeah

1551
01:01:13,010 --> 01:01:12,119
or the notebook summer surprise yeah

1552
01:01:15,170 --> 01:01:13,020
right

1553
01:01:16,730 --> 01:01:15,180
um awesome well it was a really good

1554
01:01:18,530 --> 01:01:16,740
interview Chrissy I highly suggest

1555
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:18,540
everyone go watch the interview be with

1556
01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:21,119
Brian Bender a rebelliously curious you

1557
01:01:25,730 --> 01:01:22,559
can watch it on the debrief YouTube

1558
01:01:27,470 --> 01:01:25,740
channel right now and on podcast Outlets

1559
01:01:30,589 --> 01:01:27,480
as well

1560
01:01:32,329 --> 01:01:30,599
um well let's move on to we've got two

1561
01:01:34,370 --> 01:01:32,339
more clips and I know I said we're gonna

1562
01:01:36,230 --> 01:01:34,380
go for about an hour so I'll try to race

1563
01:01:39,289 --> 01:01:36,240
through these Chrissy

1564
01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:39,299
um but let's move to disclosure team our

1565
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:40,920
good friend and colleague Vinnie Adams

1566
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:44,040
over at the disclosure team and um and

1567
01:01:49,250 --> 01:01:46,680
and his co-host had an amazing interview

1568
01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:49,260
recently with Gary Nolan

1569
01:01:52,370 --> 01:01:50,640
um and another gentleman I I'm

1570
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:52,380
forgetting his name I know it'll show up

1571
01:01:57,829 --> 01:01:55,440
in the clip Tyler Tyler Henry Henry yeah

1572
01:01:59,450 --> 01:01:57,839
I'm not exactly I'm not familiar with

1573
01:02:01,910 --> 01:01:59,460
this works so I'm gonna have to go check

1574
01:02:02,809 --> 01:02:01,920
him out and see see what he's what he's

1575
01:02:06,049 --> 01:02:02,819
doing

1576
01:02:08,210 --> 01:02:06,059
um but I believe Tyler Henry's a medium

1577
01:02:11,270 --> 01:02:08,220
is he the guy who has that Netflix show

1578
01:02:12,650 --> 01:02:11,280
yeah he's a celebrity medium I thought

1579
01:02:14,450 --> 01:02:12,660
that was really interesting when I saw

1580
01:02:17,089 --> 01:02:14,460
that interview it was like video well

1581
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:17,099
done lunch yeah it was like Well Done

1582
01:02:22,010 --> 01:02:19,500
Vinnie because I was like I have not

1583
01:02:23,569 --> 01:02:22,020
seen this crew together before so I was

1584
01:02:24,650 --> 01:02:23,579
like you know what I have to go back and

1585
01:02:26,809 --> 01:02:24,660
watch it actually because I've only seen

1586
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:26,819
Clips too but I was like you know what

1587
01:02:30,950 --> 01:02:29,280
that's um that's a that's a get because

1588
01:02:32,569 --> 01:02:30,960
like putting those together and those

1589
01:02:34,490 --> 01:02:32,579
thoughts are very very interesting

1590
01:02:36,849 --> 01:02:34,500
especially from Tyler's perspective and

1591
01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:36,859
then obviously Gary Nolan right right

1592
01:02:40,430 --> 01:02:39,059
yeah oh man I'm gonna have to go watch

1593
01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:40,440
the whole interview

1594
01:02:45,170 --> 01:02:43,440
um but let's play this clip here and it

1595
01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:45,180
has to do with um

1596
01:02:50,150 --> 01:02:48,180
uh Gary Nolan talking about his

1597
01:02:53,450 --> 01:02:50,160
perspectives on the public UAP hearings

1598
01:02:56,809 --> 01:02:53,460
which Bender commented on as well and

1599
01:02:58,250 --> 01:02:56,819
um that these are possibly going to be

1600
01:03:01,130 --> 01:02:58,260
happening this year we're going to get

1601
01:03:02,569 --> 01:03:01,140
public Congressional hearings we're

1602
01:03:05,030 --> 01:03:02,579
going to get people on the Congress

1603
01:03:07,549 --> 01:03:05,040
floor talking about UFOs possibly

1604
01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:07,559
possibly Gary seems to believe that it's

1605
01:03:13,250 --> 01:03:10,740
going to happen and he's even been in

1606
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:13,260
contact with people in Congress about

1607
01:03:16,609 --> 01:03:14,640
this so I'm going to go ahead and play

1608
01:03:17,630 --> 01:03:16,619
the clip and we'll talk about it on the

1609
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:17,640
other side

1610
01:03:22,370 --> 01:03:19,740
and recently we've heard in clings of

1611
01:03:24,049 --> 01:03:22,380
potential new public hearings and I just

1612
01:03:26,390 --> 01:03:24,059
wondered if there was anything you could

1613
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,400
you know tell us about that have you

1614
01:03:31,069 --> 01:03:28,319
heard anything behind the scenes well I

1615
01:03:32,510 --> 01:03:31,079
mean behind the scenes yes uh they're

1616
01:03:33,829 --> 01:03:32,520
you know but I mean I don't even have to

1617
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:33,839
go behind the scenes I mean it's public

1618
01:03:39,530 --> 01:03:36,780
information now that several of the

1619
01:03:41,150 --> 01:03:39,540
Congress people have talked openly about

1620
01:03:44,329 --> 01:03:41,160
you know literally going to the speaker

1621
01:03:46,309 --> 01:03:44,339
of the house uh McCarthy and and asking

1622
01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:46,319
for these open hearings

1623
01:03:49,130 --> 01:03:47,940
um you know we all know that the some of

1624
01:03:51,950 --> 01:03:49,140
the whistleblowers have stepped forward

1625
01:03:54,410 --> 01:03:51,960
and done all of this and uh and and

1626
01:03:56,270 --> 01:03:54,420
talked about this and you know I mean I

1627
01:03:59,750 --> 01:03:56,280
have a I have a letter signed by 12

1628
01:04:02,089 --> 01:03:59,760
senators I you know I think that I think

1629
01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:02,099
people just need to look three months

1630
01:04:07,910 --> 01:04:05,040
ago as to how far it's come and just

1631
01:04:10,250 --> 01:04:07,920
take heart in the knowledge that there's

1632
01:04:12,829 --> 01:04:10,260
a lot of people who have who have

1633
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:12,839
crossed over that threshold of wanting

1634
01:04:15,589 --> 01:04:14,160
to move it forward

1635
01:04:18,370 --> 01:04:15,599
you know but I mean back to this

1636
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:18,380
conversation here

1637
01:04:24,470 --> 01:04:21,540
everybody involved knows that it's not

1638
01:04:26,690 --> 01:04:24,480
just the nuts and bolts and yet we're

1639
01:04:28,370 --> 01:04:26,700
we're being very careful not dancing too

1640
01:04:29,809 --> 01:04:28,380
far over that line because it'll scare

1641
01:04:32,930 --> 01:04:29,819
the Jesus

1642
01:04:36,289 --> 01:04:32,940
out of out of people

1643
01:04:39,049 --> 01:04:36,299
um if it gets too deep into the womb

1644
01:04:42,230 --> 01:04:39,059
you know and so and yet all of us know

1645
01:04:45,589 --> 01:04:42,240
that the Woo is just around the corner

1646
01:04:47,390 --> 01:04:45,599
last time we we found out that you may

1647
01:04:50,450 --> 01:04:47,400
have been involved in some prep

1648
01:04:52,490 --> 01:04:50,460
materials you may have helped Mike

1649
01:04:54,950 --> 01:04:52,500
Gallagher find out about the Wilson

1650
01:04:56,210 --> 01:04:54,960
Davis memo which got entered into the

1651
01:04:58,609 --> 01:04:56,220
record

1652
01:05:00,710 --> 01:04:58,619
um can you say if you will be

1653
01:05:03,770 --> 01:05:00,720
participating in any sort of briefings

1654
01:05:05,690 --> 01:05:03,780
or providing white papers to any members

1655
01:05:07,849 --> 01:05:05,700
of Congress beforehand

1656
01:05:10,309 --> 01:05:07,859
I just shouldn't say anything

1657
01:05:11,870 --> 01:05:10,319
okay I've been asked you know I mean I

1658
01:05:14,569 --> 01:05:11,880
think people can infer exactly what I

1659
01:05:17,450 --> 01:05:14,579
mean when I say that so

1660
01:05:20,510 --> 01:05:17,460
um you know uh I I am I am certainly not

1661
01:05:23,329 --> 01:05:20,520
Central to the ongoing narrative uh and

1662
01:05:25,730 --> 01:05:23,339
it could happen and continue without me

1663
01:05:28,370 --> 01:05:25,740
um to the extent that I can help I'm

1664
01:05:34,250 --> 01:05:32,750
Gary Nolan is so Sly I swear to God I

1665
01:05:38,089 --> 01:05:34,260
haven't interviewed him yet I know you

1666
01:05:39,230 --> 01:05:38,099
have but he's so uh he's got such a good

1667
01:05:42,049 --> 01:05:39,240
um like

1668
01:05:44,030 --> 01:05:42,059
can't talk about it moving on sort of

1669
01:05:45,770 --> 01:05:44,040
mentality I love it I love it

1670
01:05:47,210 --> 01:05:45,780
um I know it probably frustrates the

1671
01:05:49,490 --> 01:05:47,220
hell out of a lot of people to be

1672
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:49,500
completely honest but um some

1673
01:05:54,770 --> 01:05:52,079
interesting things said we now know for

1674
01:05:56,990 --> 01:05:54,780
a fact that he was the one that spoke to

1675
01:06:00,109 --> 01:05:57,000
representative Gallagher about like the

1676
01:06:01,670 --> 01:06:00,119
Wilson Davis memo um UFOs and nukes kind

1677
01:06:02,930 --> 01:06:01,680
of stuff like that

1678
01:06:04,490 --> 01:06:02,940
um because we were all wondering when

1679
01:06:06,770 --> 01:06:04,500
those Congressional hearings happen like

1680
01:06:09,170 --> 01:06:06,780
how did these Congress members how were

1681
01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:09,180
they privy to some of this stuff like

1682
01:06:14,329 --> 01:06:12,180
very specific things now we know um

1683
01:06:17,210 --> 01:06:14,339
which I think is pretty cool uh and then

1684
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:17,220
Gary also touched on you know that

1685
01:06:22,190 --> 01:06:20,040
public UAP hearings are possibly coming

1686
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:22,200
in the near future so what do you think

1687
01:06:25,970 --> 01:06:23,760
what do you think about all this I'm

1688
01:06:27,589 --> 01:06:25,980
excited to hear that I love Gary's style

1689
01:06:31,849 --> 01:06:27,599
too he's mixing because he's such an

1690
01:06:34,010 --> 01:06:31,859
ally in that way you know uh you know I

1691
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:34,020
I won't say anything but really alludes

1692
01:06:40,609 --> 01:06:38,640
to saying yes so right exactly I think

1693
01:06:42,289 --> 01:06:40,619
you can it's my favorite

1694
01:06:43,609 --> 01:06:42,299
yeah

1695
01:06:45,710 --> 01:06:43,619
um and so

1696
01:06:47,930 --> 01:06:45,720
yeah I'm excited to see like especially

1697
01:06:49,549 --> 01:06:47,940
the hearings you know I'm I'm really

1698
01:06:51,890 --> 01:06:49,559
really excited to see it and hopefully

1699
01:06:53,930 --> 01:06:51,900
that happens this year because that's

1700
01:06:56,390 --> 01:06:53,940
gonna have a whole group of players new

1701
01:06:58,609 --> 01:06:56,400
players coming forward that we would

1702
01:07:00,650 --> 01:06:58,619
probably have not expected and then when

1703
01:07:02,510 --> 01:07:00,660
I interviewed Gary we talked similar a

1704
01:07:04,370 --> 01:07:02,520
little bit about the crash retrieval and

1705
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,380
I asked him if it was government and he

1706
01:07:08,569 --> 01:07:06,240
said yes so the government officials

1707
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,579
what that means uh we'll we'll find out

1708
01:07:13,549 --> 01:07:10,559
but there are government officials not

1709
01:07:15,529 --> 01:07:13,559
let's just say people within

1710
01:07:17,270 --> 01:07:15,539
um maybe like Pilots to say that that

1711
01:07:18,950 --> 01:07:17,280
poll will probably be part of it as well

1712
01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:18,960
but if government officials can mean

1713
01:07:23,270 --> 01:07:20,640
many different things and I'm curious to

1714
01:07:24,650 --> 01:07:23,280
find out who what those titles will be

1715
01:07:26,569 --> 01:07:24,660
um but again I think we go back to what

1716
01:07:28,970 --> 01:07:26,579
the comment we had we have to be mindful

1717
01:07:30,589 --> 01:07:28,980
and people have to really you know look

1718
01:07:31,970 --> 01:07:30,599
at the facts and do their own due

1719
01:07:34,549 --> 01:07:31,980
diligence and do their own journalism

1720
01:07:37,370 --> 01:07:34,559
and before listening to everyone else

1721
01:07:39,589 --> 01:07:37,380
just to see if and fact checking too as

1722
01:07:41,150 --> 01:07:39,599
much as you possibly can right

1723
01:07:43,130 --> 01:07:41,160
um and if people know these people I

1724
01:07:45,049 --> 01:07:43,140
think that's a conversation too about

1725
01:07:46,430 --> 01:07:45,059
them and and you know who they are

1726
01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,440
because there will be other people

1727
01:07:49,910 --> 01:07:48,480
coming forward that might say like you

1728
01:07:51,529 --> 01:07:49,920
know this person's not telling the full

1729
01:07:53,569 --> 01:07:51,539
truth or this is what else has happened

1730
01:07:55,370 --> 01:07:53,579
so it's it's going to be a very

1731
01:07:56,750 --> 01:07:55,380
interesting time that's for sure it's

1732
01:07:58,670 --> 01:07:56,760
going to be busy and maybe that's why we

1733
01:08:02,450 --> 01:07:58,680
have the lull right now because we're

1734
01:08:05,750 --> 01:08:02,460
all just like conserving energy for the

1735
01:08:08,029 --> 01:08:05,760
for what's gonna go on people reporting

1736
01:08:10,190 --> 01:08:08,039
these stories yeah I hope you're right

1737
01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:10,200
because I know I was like racking my

1738
01:08:14,270 --> 01:08:12,359
brain this week I was like I I have to

1739
01:08:16,430 --> 01:08:14,280
do a live stream I missed it last week I

1740
01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:16,440
felt horrible but I'm like Chrissy

1741
01:08:20,169 --> 01:08:18,660
there's not been a lot of news this week

1742
01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,179
what the hell are we gonna talk about

1743
01:08:26,150 --> 01:08:23,279
luckily we always have podcasts to

1744
01:08:29,289 --> 01:08:26,160
certain things exactly like yes podcast

1745
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:29,299
Community thank you see the network now

1746
01:08:35,150 --> 01:08:32,400
we need a large Network just UFO Network

1747
01:08:37,789 --> 01:08:35,160
that's it somebody needs to make a UFO

1748
01:08:39,890 --> 01:08:37,799
news network channel and then well it

1749
01:08:42,249 --> 01:08:39,900
runs 24 7. that needs to be in the

1750
01:08:45,590 --> 01:08:42,259
middle we have um we have what is it

1751
01:08:47,930 --> 01:08:45,600
uapdb I believe it is

1752
01:08:50,890 --> 01:08:47,940
um from a different Christian who's in

1753
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:50,900
the chat I think he UAB the

1754
01:08:55,189 --> 01:08:53,580
uapdb.com it's kind of like a One-Stop

1755
01:08:57,890 --> 01:08:55,199
shop where you can get a bunch of UFO

1756
01:09:00,110 --> 01:08:57,900
news I use it a lot um for my research

1757
01:09:02,030 --> 01:09:00,120
yes so definitely people should check

1758
01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:02,040
that out um and that's like the UFO

1759
01:09:06,950 --> 01:09:04,080
Bible isn't it like pretty how much is

1760
01:09:09,590 --> 01:09:06,960
it yeah it's basically yes all of the

1761
01:09:13,189 --> 01:09:09,600
content it's amazing yeah yeah it's like

1762
01:09:15,650 --> 01:09:13,199
IMDb but for UFOs it's genius I'm so

1763
01:09:18,110 --> 01:09:15,660
happy he did that um but yes really good

1764
01:09:20,510 --> 01:09:18,120
clip um love hearing from Gary Nolan

1765
01:09:21,650 --> 01:09:20,520
love hearing his perspectives I can't

1766
01:09:23,809 --> 01:09:21,660
wait to go listen to that whole

1767
01:09:26,450 --> 01:09:23,819
interview Katie Holland is the co-host

1768
01:09:28,490 --> 01:09:26,460
I'm so sorry Katie your name escaped my

1769
01:09:31,370 --> 01:09:28,500
mind briefly when I was introducing the

1770
01:09:33,950 --> 01:09:31,380
clip again it's Sunday it's like 90

1771
01:09:35,809 --> 01:09:33,960
degrees I'm dying over here so we're

1772
01:09:36,890 --> 01:09:35,819
gonna wrap things up soon Chrissy I

1773
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:36,900
promise

1774
01:09:43,010 --> 01:09:41,580
um but uh our last clip actually for

1775
01:09:45,410 --> 01:09:43,020
today is

1776
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:45,420
um of course from our good friends and

1777
01:09:49,550 --> 01:09:47,580
colleagues over at weaponize Jeremy

1778
01:09:53,209 --> 01:09:49,560
Corbell George nap

1779
01:09:56,450 --> 01:09:53,219
um they had uh Duncan Trussell a

1780
01:09:58,430 --> 01:09:56,460
comedian who um I know of his work I've

1781
01:10:00,290 --> 01:09:58,440
seen him on Drunk History a lot on

1782
01:10:04,370 --> 01:10:00,300
Comedy Central

1783
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,380
um but I had no idea like how incredibly

1784
01:10:08,810 --> 01:10:07,199
smart this guy was and hearing him talk

1785
01:10:10,610 --> 01:10:08,820
in this interview about artificial

1786
01:10:14,870 --> 01:10:10,620
intelligence

1787
01:10:17,150 --> 01:10:14,880
um psychedelics UFOs uh was so

1788
01:10:20,090 --> 01:10:17,160
refreshing and I can't wait to kind of

1789
01:10:22,310 --> 01:10:20,100
like look at a lot more of his work

1790
01:10:24,709 --> 01:10:22,320
um but this was a really interesting

1791
01:10:28,430 --> 01:10:24,719
interview you know not every week is

1792
01:10:31,850 --> 01:10:28,440
going to be a new video or photo drop by

1793
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:31,860
Corbell at High Noon it's gonna be you

1794
01:10:36,830 --> 01:10:34,080
know interviews about other things and

1795
01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:36,840
you know colleagues of theirs and and a

1796
01:10:41,270 --> 01:10:38,460
lot of different stuff and I think this

1797
01:10:43,070 --> 01:10:41,280
was a good representation of those other

1798
01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:43,080
conversations that they're going to be

1799
01:10:48,770 --> 01:10:46,980
having on um weaponize and this is a

1800
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,780
topic I'll play the clip this is

1801
01:10:51,709 --> 01:10:49,920
probably the longest clip of the night

1802
01:10:52,970 --> 01:10:51,719
it's not more than three minutes guys I

1803
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:52,980
promise

1804
01:10:57,110 --> 01:10:55,920
um where they talk about Ai and I really

1805
01:10:59,450 --> 01:10:57,120
want to get your thoughts on this

1806
01:11:04,130 --> 01:10:59,460
Chrissy on the other side because this

1807
01:11:07,130 --> 01:11:04,140
is AI is exploding right now in terms of

1808
01:11:09,110 --> 01:11:07,140
everything so

1809
01:11:11,270 --> 01:11:09,120
um I guess let's just play the clip and

1810
01:11:13,130 --> 01:11:11,280
we'll really dive into this last this

1811
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:13,140
last discussion um on the other side

1812
01:11:19,910 --> 01:11:16,320
sound good sounds good

1813
01:11:22,669 --> 01:11:19,920
all right what if the AI

1814
01:11:24,709 --> 01:11:22,679
suddenly creates the beacon or the

1815
01:11:27,470 --> 01:11:24,719
signal or whatever the energetic output

1816
01:11:29,330 --> 01:11:27,480
that there's super Advanced radar level

1817
01:11:31,370 --> 01:11:29,340
work and have a conversation and so we

1818
01:11:33,770 --> 01:11:31,380
go on screen all of a sudden not because

1819
01:11:36,229 --> 01:11:33,780
of our dumb asses but because we birthed

1820
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,239
something much smarter than us and then

1821
01:11:40,430 --> 01:11:38,400
they show up so that's where you could

1822
01:11:41,870 --> 01:11:40,440
kick around if you want to just for fun

1823
01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:41,880
thought experiment play around with a

1824
01:11:47,570 --> 01:11:44,219
sudden appearance of these uaps assuming

1825
01:11:49,370 --> 01:11:47,580
it's not uh something to do with the

1826
01:11:52,010 --> 01:11:49,380
technology that we've developed they're

1827
01:11:53,390 --> 01:11:52,020
coming not because of anything we've

1828
01:11:55,209 --> 01:11:53,400
done not because they're afraid we're

1829
01:11:58,250 --> 01:11:55,219
going to wreck the planet but because

1830
01:12:00,890 --> 01:11:58,260
China the United States that we all

1831
01:12:03,950 --> 01:12:00,900
recently poured billions of dollars into

1832
01:12:07,310 --> 01:12:03,960
AI has developed a strong General AI

1833
01:12:09,530 --> 01:12:07,320
that has somehow sent the peak and get

1834
01:12:13,070 --> 01:12:09,540
his phone home and they're showing up

1835
01:12:15,950 --> 01:12:13,080
baby I call it techno-terrestrial so you

1836
01:12:17,689 --> 01:12:15,960
know the idea of panspermia which are a

1837
01:12:20,750 --> 01:12:17,699
planet accidentally gets seated with

1838
01:12:22,910 --> 01:12:20,760
some sort of DNA or RNA or yeah and it

1839
01:12:25,010 --> 01:12:22,920
populates through now there's directed

1840
01:12:26,689 --> 01:12:25,020
panspermia which a lot of people don't

1841
01:12:28,790 --> 01:12:26,699
exactly know but I'm sure you do which

1842
01:12:31,490 --> 01:12:28,800
is the idea of an intentional seeding of

1843
01:12:34,250 --> 01:12:31,500
a planet with some sort of life-bearing

1844
01:12:36,530 --> 01:12:34,260
kind of growing fruit right and so now a

1845
01:12:38,630 --> 01:12:36,540
step further if we if we say Okay direct

1846
01:12:41,510 --> 01:12:38,640
depend spermia is something in our world

1847
01:12:43,790 --> 01:12:41,520
that we could conceive of my ideas for

1848
01:12:46,310 --> 01:12:43,800
the techno-terrestrial is that

1849
01:12:48,530 --> 01:12:46,320
everything we're seeing this explosion

1850
01:12:50,750 --> 01:12:48,540
of human capability within the

1851
01:12:53,570 --> 01:12:50,760
technological field that that could be

1852
01:12:55,550 --> 01:12:53,580
the purpose itself on one level which is

1853
01:12:56,930 --> 01:12:55,560
that this directed panspermia which

1854
01:13:00,050 --> 01:12:56,940
really let's just say directed

1855
01:13:02,930 --> 01:13:00,060
intervention within the human genome to

1856
01:13:05,450 --> 01:13:02,940
create individuals that can then build

1857
01:13:07,490 --> 01:13:05,460
technology to an end and that that

1858
01:13:08,990 --> 01:13:07,500
technology itself is an

1859
01:13:11,450 --> 01:13:09,000
interconnectivity that we would have

1860
01:13:12,890 --> 01:13:11,460
with all the space-faring nations you

1861
01:13:16,370 --> 01:13:12,900
know in the world it's totally just a

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01:13:19,070 --> 01:13:16,380
theory guys but the idea that technology

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01:13:21,470 --> 01:13:19,080
itself and its fusion with Consciousness

1864
01:13:23,689 --> 01:13:21,480
that maybe the end result is that

1865
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:23,699
Consciousness itself is the thing that

1866
01:13:27,350 --> 01:13:25,440
is being propagated and I can't imagine

1867
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:27,360
something more beautiful than that that

1868
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:29,280
if there's this vast Cosmic universe and

1869
01:13:34,490 --> 01:13:32,340
we see UFOs and UFOs represent this sort

1870
01:13:37,189 --> 01:13:34,500
of cybernetic artificial intelligence

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01:13:39,830 --> 01:13:37,199
that comes from an AI that is here to

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01:13:43,070 --> 01:13:39,840
not only seed Humanity from a genetic

1873
01:13:44,630 --> 01:13:43,080
purpose but also Inspire Humanity to

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01:13:46,850 --> 01:13:44,640
continue reaching farther and farther

1875
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:46,860
towards these goals of innovation

1876
01:13:50,750 --> 01:13:48,960
that is where all of this research has

1877
01:13:53,390 --> 01:13:50,760
led me is that there's got to be

1878
01:13:55,550 --> 01:13:53,400
something about the beauty of seeding

1879
01:13:57,530 --> 01:13:55,560
the cosmos with what we feel to be

1880
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,540
creativity and life and Consciousness

1881
01:14:01,130 --> 01:13:59,520
and I'm probably totally [\h__\h] wrong

1882
01:14:02,570 --> 01:14:01,140
but I wanted to finally throw down the

1883
01:14:06,370 --> 01:14:02,580
Techno terrestrial Theory because I

1884
01:14:13,610 --> 01:14:10,510
techno terrestrial I love it oh yeah I

1885
01:14:14,990 --> 01:14:13,620
say what you will about Corbell

1886
01:14:17,630 --> 01:14:15,000
um I know he's a friendly colleague of

1887
01:14:19,130 --> 01:14:17,640
ours A lot of people you know don't dig

1888
01:14:21,530 --> 01:14:19,140
a lot of what he does but this is the

1889
01:14:23,870 --> 01:14:21,540
Korbel I love this is when he really

1890
01:14:25,790 --> 01:14:23,880
just goes off and starts talking about

1891
01:14:28,490 --> 01:14:25,800
his thoughts and theories and the

1892
01:14:30,770 --> 01:14:28,500
research he's done and I love this

1893
01:14:34,729 --> 01:14:30,780
concept of a techno terrestrial in terms

1894
01:14:37,250 --> 01:14:34,739
of AI and the fact that like you know

1895
01:14:39,950 --> 01:14:37,260
I don't even know where to begin I I was

1896
01:14:43,669 --> 01:14:39,960
re-reading last night

1897
01:14:46,430 --> 01:14:43,679
um the UFO Singularity uh by Micah Hanks

1898
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:46,440
This brilliant book that he wrote like I

1899
01:14:51,530 --> 01:14:48,600
don't know God more than like 10 years

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01:14:53,470 --> 01:14:51,540
ago now at this point and he was so

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01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:53,480
ahead of his time

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01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,440
right now we're talking about

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01:15:04,370 --> 01:15:00,239
techno-terrestrials and Ai and what they

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01:15:07,130 --> 01:15:04,380
might have to do with a a possible Alien

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01:15:09,770 --> 01:15:07,140
Invasion alien intervention alien

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01:15:13,370 --> 01:15:09,780
communication you could even term you

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01:15:14,990 --> 01:15:13,380
know that a n a i to alien instead of

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01:15:17,090 --> 01:15:15,000
artificial

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01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:17,100
um and Michael was just so ahead of it

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01:15:21,169 --> 01:15:19,020
and I I give him so much credit for

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01:15:24,649 --> 01:15:21,179
talking about something nobody else was

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01:15:26,689 --> 01:15:24,659
back then and um now

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01:15:28,610 --> 01:15:26,699
AI is everywhere and that's what I want

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01:15:30,709 --> 01:15:28,620
to get your thoughts on Chrissy I mean

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01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:30,719
everything on my timeline everything in

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01:15:36,410 --> 01:15:33,360
my Twitter feed right now is about

1917
01:15:39,169 --> 01:15:36,420
um ai ai how it's being used for really

1918
01:15:41,090 --> 01:15:39,179
good reasons and very nefarious reasons

1919
01:15:43,729 --> 01:15:41,100
and how it's going to be extremely

1920
01:15:46,550 --> 01:15:43,739
dangerous moving forward and also very

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01:15:49,370 --> 01:15:46,560
exciting and beneficial and we're in

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01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:49,380
this weird nebulous area right now where

1923
01:15:54,530 --> 01:15:51,000
we don't know what's going to happen

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01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:54,540
with it and um it's scary anything

1925
01:15:59,570 --> 01:15:56,640
uncertain is very scary

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01:16:03,290 --> 01:15:59,580
um but it's also exciting so I guess

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01:16:06,169 --> 01:16:03,300
that's my rant what do you think about

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01:16:08,570 --> 01:16:06,179
this concept of the Techno terrestrial

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01:16:10,970 --> 01:16:08,580
and um and I guess artificial

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01:16:12,590 --> 01:16:10,980
intelligence in general the biggest

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01:16:15,050 --> 01:16:12,600
question I could possibly ask you at the

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01:16:16,669 --> 01:16:15,060
end of it oh it's so cool I'm sorry it's

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01:16:19,610 --> 01:16:16,679
no it's okay it's such a wild question

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01:16:20,930 --> 01:16:19,620
because it's so there's so much to it

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01:16:23,689 --> 01:16:20,940
um I'll start with the Techno

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01:16:24,770 --> 01:16:23,699
terrestrial there is Grimes came out

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01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:24,780
Elon

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01:16:32,450 --> 01:16:30,780
Grimes who's the Canadian artist I love

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01:16:34,910 --> 01:16:32,460
her everyone should go watch her Alex

1940
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:34,920
Freeman interviews because yeah she she

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01:16:38,990 --> 01:16:36,900
really is she's she's a wonderful

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01:16:40,010 --> 01:16:39,000
thinker I think I have a lot of respect

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01:16:41,689 --> 01:16:40,020
for her

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01:16:44,270 --> 01:16:41,699
um and I just love how androgynous she

1945
01:16:47,030 --> 01:16:44,280
can be as well too uh very much of our

1946
01:16:47,930 --> 01:16:47,040
2023 time uh especially as an art techno

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01:16:50,030 --> 01:16:47,940
artist

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01:16:52,070 --> 01:16:50,040
and a full Creator let's do she does

1949
01:16:53,209 --> 01:16:52,080
everything anyway uh besides that she

1950
01:16:56,330 --> 01:16:53,219
comes up with a term called techno

1951
01:16:59,270 --> 01:16:56,340
Sapien it's a very similar to almost

1952
01:17:01,850 --> 01:16:59,280
close to I would say even to what

1953
01:17:03,050 --> 01:17:01,860
um you know uh Jeremy Corbell is kind of

1954
01:17:05,810 --> 01:17:03,060
relating to I think that they're both

1955
01:17:07,370 --> 01:17:05,820
there's some similarities there but I

1956
01:17:09,169 --> 01:17:07,380
would say in general with the whole AI

1957
01:17:11,209 --> 01:17:09,179
conversation and potentially like

1958
01:17:14,570 --> 01:17:11,219
contacting us and US creating something

1959
01:17:17,090 --> 01:17:14,580
that might you know contact ET and bring

1960
01:17:19,250 --> 01:17:17,100
them home that kind of idea I'm I'm for

1961
01:17:21,410 --> 01:17:19,260
it I think it's great the question is is

1962
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:21,420
now is when are we going to get to the

1963
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:25,199
form of decentralizing AI and that

1964
01:17:28,550 --> 01:17:27,360
really is a larger conversation that's

1965
01:17:30,649 --> 01:17:28,560
Singularity

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01:17:32,689 --> 01:17:30,659
um I believe it's singular AI is uh

1967
01:17:34,790 --> 01:17:32,699
having right now and that's Ben gertzel

1968
01:17:36,830 --> 01:17:34,800
along with some other groups and

1969
01:17:38,450 --> 01:17:36,840
companies called hyper cycle they're

1970
01:17:41,570 --> 01:17:38,460
looking and I believe there's and trust

1971
01:17:43,310 --> 01:17:41,580
me I am not an AI specialist in any form

1972
01:17:45,530 --> 01:17:43,320
in this space so just you know

1973
01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:45,540
researched it and and reading along like

1974
01:17:49,910 --> 01:17:48,300
everybody else but when we get to the a

1975
01:17:51,290 --> 01:17:49,920
form of decentralizing what is that

1976
01:17:52,850 --> 01:17:51,300
going to look like and that's what I'm

1977
01:17:55,790 --> 01:17:52,860
really curious what that next step is

1978
01:17:58,729 --> 01:17:55,800
because the future for sure is going to

1979
01:18:02,090 --> 01:17:58,739
be wild when I'm 80 you know will I

1980
01:18:04,729 --> 01:18:02,100
decide to opt into this whole AI you

1981
01:18:07,130 --> 01:18:04,739
know meta verse world that's combined

1982
01:18:09,649 --> 01:18:07,140
with mixed reality potentially with AI

1983
01:18:11,510 --> 01:18:09,659
like I have I have no idea well I opt

1984
01:18:13,370 --> 01:18:11,520
into more of an AI world where I decide

1985
01:18:15,110 --> 01:18:13,380
just to stay in my wonderful old primary

1986
01:18:16,910 --> 01:18:15,120
world who knows

1987
01:18:18,709 --> 01:18:16,920
um but I think the conversation next

1988
01:18:20,630 --> 01:18:18,719
will be what does decentralizing look

1989
01:18:22,970 --> 01:18:20,640
like and how are we going to use it and

1990
01:18:24,649 --> 01:18:22,980
how are how are we going to self-govern

1991
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:24,659
this around the world so that hopefully

1992
01:18:30,770 --> 01:18:27,120
it's used for good right or how do we

1993
01:18:32,630 --> 01:18:30,780
how do we yeah how do we do that I don't

1994
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,640
know and I think that's the next

1995
01:18:36,350 --> 01:18:34,560
conversation because we're so young it's

1996
01:18:38,090 --> 01:18:36,360
like the internet right that's where

1997
01:18:40,070 --> 01:18:38,100
we're at right now the beginning of the

1998
01:18:41,689 --> 01:18:40,080
internet we're watching this total new

1999
01:18:44,330 --> 01:18:41,699
system in new world that's being created

2000
01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:44,340
for the next Generations to come so I

2001
01:18:49,490 --> 01:18:47,280
find it my futurism side loves it I you

2002
01:18:51,290 --> 01:18:49,500
know I can't wait to see it I just

2003
01:18:53,530 --> 01:18:51,300
curious if I'm going to take partake in

2004
01:18:56,090 --> 01:18:53,540
it so yeah

2005
01:18:58,250 --> 01:18:56,100
I feel like you and I already have I

2006
01:19:02,090 --> 01:18:58,260
mean even the featured oh for sure for

2007
01:19:03,950 --> 01:19:02,100
this episode I used an AI uh digital art

2008
01:19:06,050 --> 01:19:03,960
of you

2009
01:19:08,570 --> 01:19:06,060
um so and you know I did the same thing

2010
01:19:10,850 --> 01:19:08,580
like I I did that whole air thing where

2011
01:19:13,070 --> 01:19:10,860
they kind of you know take pieces from

2012
01:19:16,250 --> 01:19:13,080
all different art all over the world and

2013
01:19:19,550 --> 01:19:16,260
combine it to make an image of you and

2014
01:19:22,310 --> 01:19:19,560
we've already like been a part of it

2015
01:19:24,590 --> 01:19:22,320
Chrissy in so many in so many words

2016
01:19:26,649 --> 01:19:24,600
um I and ai's been around for a while

2017
01:19:29,689 --> 01:19:26,659
too that's the other thing

2018
01:19:31,729 --> 01:19:29,699
was using the form of AI when he created

2019
01:19:33,290 --> 01:19:31,739
his first databases Jacques told me that

2020
01:19:36,169 --> 01:19:33,300
and I was like no

2021
01:19:38,510 --> 01:19:36,179
yeah so it's been around it's just now

2022
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:38,520
at its you know it's the beginning of

2023
01:19:42,709 --> 01:19:40,560
what we'd be able to centralize and the

2024
01:19:44,570 --> 01:19:42,719
whole world would be able to use it as a

2025
01:19:47,270 --> 01:19:44,580
consumer good let's just say and

2026
01:19:49,490 --> 01:19:47,280
capitalize off it in its own way so

2027
01:19:51,110 --> 01:19:49,500
that's curious because AI could

2028
01:19:53,030 --> 01:19:51,120
correlate data it could do all those

2029
01:19:56,450 --> 01:19:53,040
wonderful things now we're just on this

2030
01:19:58,310 --> 01:19:56,460
like exponential like insane rise of it

2031
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,320
that's going to be very curious what

2032
01:20:02,450 --> 01:19:59,760
it's going to look like even in the next

2033
01:20:05,330 --> 01:20:02,460
year or two to be honest yeah

2034
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:05,340
right well it's funny because I was just

2035
01:20:12,290 --> 01:20:09,239
listening to a show on NPR where this um

2036
01:20:14,930 --> 01:20:12,300
this computer scientist was talking

2037
01:20:17,930 --> 01:20:14,940
about he was the the individual who

2038
01:20:22,189 --> 01:20:17,940
created the endless scroll

2039
01:20:24,169 --> 01:20:22,199
um so I mean he the purpose when he

2040
01:20:27,189 --> 01:20:24,179
created that was not

2041
01:20:30,229 --> 01:20:27,199
he says was not to make people

2042
01:20:31,370 --> 01:20:30,239
mindlessly scroll Instagram and Facebook

2043
01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:31,380
and Twitter

2044
01:20:36,050 --> 01:20:34,080
um you know and and for till the end of

2045
01:20:37,910 --> 01:20:36,060
time that was not the purpose of why he

2046
01:20:40,910 --> 01:20:37,920
did that it was just he wanted to create

2047
01:20:43,250 --> 01:20:40,920
it as a more beneficial way for you to

2048
01:20:46,130 --> 01:20:43,260
whatever follow instructions on

2049
01:20:47,870 --> 01:20:46,140
something or or you know for doctors

2050
01:20:50,090 --> 01:20:47,880
when they're they're doing stuff to be

2051
01:20:51,470 --> 01:20:50,100
able to efficiently do what they have to

2052
01:20:53,870 --> 01:20:51,480
do stuff like that

2053
01:20:55,790 --> 01:20:53,880
um but then you know he he brings up

2054
01:20:58,270 --> 01:20:55,800
this good point that as technologists

2055
01:21:01,610 --> 01:20:58,280
and people creating these Technologies

2056
01:21:04,250 --> 01:21:01,620
you have to look as far ahead as humanly

2057
01:21:06,950 --> 01:21:04,260
possible because you are responsible for

2058
01:21:08,810 --> 01:21:06,960
what happens with that technology you

2059
01:21:09,950 --> 01:21:08,820
create and I found that really

2060
01:21:11,870 --> 01:21:09,960
interesting

2061
01:21:13,850 --> 01:21:11,880
um and the reason he was being

2062
01:21:16,490 --> 01:21:13,860
interviewed was not for that it was

2063
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,500
because he has helped create an

2064
01:21:21,590 --> 01:21:19,440
artificial intelligence that will make

2065
01:21:24,649 --> 01:21:21,600
it possible for us to be able to

2066
01:21:26,930 --> 01:21:24,659
communicate with animals so what they're

2067
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:26,940
doing is they're creating these

2068
01:21:34,310 --> 01:21:30,480
algorithms of animal uh you know

2069
01:21:36,350 --> 01:21:34,320
whatever noise a whale makes or a

2070
01:21:38,630 --> 01:21:36,360
dolphin makes and they're going to

2071
01:21:40,850 --> 01:21:38,640
combine all those different noises and

2072
01:21:43,490 --> 01:21:40,860
sounds into these algorithms through AI

2073
01:21:46,370 --> 01:21:43,500
through Computer Learning and be able to

2074
01:21:49,970 --> 01:21:46,380
finally understand what certain things

2075
01:21:52,189 --> 01:21:49,980
mean that they're doing and then how we

2076
01:21:54,830 --> 01:21:52,199
can then replicate that and begin

2077
01:21:57,890 --> 01:21:54,840
communicating with the animals

2078
01:22:00,590 --> 01:21:57,900
sounds cool in theory but then you have

2079
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:00,600
to really think what happens when humans

2080
01:22:05,930 --> 01:22:04,080
can now communicate with an animal you

2081
01:22:08,570 --> 01:22:05,940
know what's the first thing we say to

2082
01:22:10,189 --> 01:22:08,580
them or do we not say anything and just

2083
01:22:13,250 --> 01:22:10,199
listen

2084
01:22:16,070 --> 01:22:13,260
um it's fascinating while you think it's

2085
01:22:18,410 --> 01:22:16,080
going to be amazing and cool it's also

2086
01:22:20,030 --> 01:22:18,420
like terrifying like what what happens

2087
01:22:21,470 --> 01:22:20,040
if we finally communicate with the

2088
01:22:24,050 --> 01:22:21,480
animal and they're like

2089
01:22:25,970 --> 01:22:24,060
hey thanks for you know butchering us

2090
01:22:27,709 --> 01:22:25,980
for the past 100

2091
01:22:29,510 --> 01:22:27,719
000 years or whatever

2092
01:22:32,149 --> 01:22:29,520
um we're gonna take the planet vaccine

2093
01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:32,159
or or Earth you know it's just it's

2094
01:22:36,110 --> 01:22:34,080
endless the possibilities are oh it is

2095
01:22:38,649 --> 01:22:36,120
so I'd love to talk to my dog and I'd

2096
01:22:41,810 --> 01:22:38,659
love to know would be really thanks

2097
01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:41,820
exactly be curious I'm dog watching

2098
01:22:45,770 --> 01:22:43,920
right now and you're right I can't even

2099
01:22:48,229 --> 01:22:45,780
fathom what this dog is thinking right

2100
01:22:50,450 --> 01:22:48,239
now on the other side of this door oh

2101
01:22:52,310 --> 01:22:50,460
and they know like I for sure and or

2102
01:22:54,350 --> 01:22:52,320
they'll say things like yeah don't eat

2103
01:22:56,689 --> 01:22:54,360
me you know like I would imagine like

2104
01:22:58,310 --> 01:22:56,699
it's just and here's the thing the the

2105
01:23:00,410 --> 01:22:58,320
positive side of it we might have more

2106
01:23:02,390 --> 01:23:00,420
empathy towards animals and have a

2107
01:23:04,250 --> 01:23:02,400
different outlook on that and we are

2108
01:23:05,870 --> 01:23:04,260
outside of just the eye of stuff we're

2109
01:23:07,729 --> 01:23:05,880
moving into so many different types of

2110
01:23:10,250 --> 01:23:07,739
production like in you know Productions

2111
01:23:12,530 --> 01:23:10,260
of uh meat in lab right now in different

2112
01:23:14,390 --> 01:23:12,540
types of food so that we're not killing

2113
01:23:16,729 --> 01:23:14,400
animals right and less pollution and

2114
01:23:18,169 --> 01:23:16,739
stuff like that so who knows maybe there

2115
01:23:20,570 --> 01:23:18,179
will come to like a point where those

2116
01:23:22,490 --> 01:23:20,580
two things will merge right when we get

2117
01:23:25,130 --> 01:23:22,500
really good at creating eating products

2118
01:23:27,410 --> 01:23:25,140
within Labs that are so close to being

2119
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:27,420
real meat or even some forms of real

2120
01:23:32,149 --> 01:23:30,480
meat or being real meat who knows right

2121
01:23:34,430 --> 01:23:32,159
um and then having to be able to to talk

2122
01:23:36,890 --> 01:23:34,440
to animals which I think is insane like

2123
01:23:38,870 --> 01:23:36,900
as a child though to say that that was

2124
01:23:41,689 --> 01:23:38,880
like my heaven was to be able to hang

2125
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:41,699
out and talk to animals that not even a

2126
01:23:45,110 --> 01:23:43,679
joke when I was like six years old so

2127
01:23:47,630 --> 01:23:45,120
like that would be great but you're

2128
01:23:50,270 --> 01:23:47,640
right who knows what we're gonna learn

2129
01:23:52,189 --> 01:23:50,280
um it's petrifying too like it is you

2130
01:23:53,330 --> 01:23:52,199
know what's gonna happen it's you know

2131
01:23:55,790 --> 01:23:53,340
it's not and it's here's the thing it's

2132
01:23:57,890 --> 01:23:55,800
our generation to help guide it go to

2133
01:23:59,570 --> 01:23:57,900
hopefully something positive but it is

2134
01:24:02,090 --> 01:23:59,580
the younger Generations that are really

2135
01:24:03,890 --> 01:24:02,100
going to be using it in their entire

2136
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:03,900
lives or brought up with it and it will

2137
01:24:07,910 --> 01:24:05,520
be their responsibility too so our

2138
01:24:11,630 --> 01:24:07,920
responsibility is to hopefully start it

2139
01:24:14,870 --> 01:24:11,640
off on a good note I would hope yeah

2140
01:24:16,610 --> 01:24:14,880
I hope so you're right and again I love

2141
01:24:19,070 --> 01:24:16,620
this idea of like if you're gonna create

2142
01:24:21,250 --> 01:24:19,080
technology you are responsible for the

2143
01:24:24,530 --> 01:24:21,260
future of it so keep that in mind

2144
01:24:26,870 --> 01:24:24,540
technologists moving forward please

2145
01:24:28,850 --> 01:24:26,880
um so many good points um techno

2146
01:24:31,010 --> 01:24:28,860
terrestrial I can't wait to see the

2147
01:24:33,950 --> 01:24:31,020
evolution of this term this thought this

2148
01:24:36,169 --> 01:24:33,960
Theory thought experiment by Corbell

2149
01:24:37,810 --> 01:24:36,179
um I think it's pretty cool and I'm down

2150
01:24:40,490 --> 01:24:37,820
I'm down for the Techno terrestrial

2151
01:24:43,250 --> 01:24:40,500
unless of course it comes in the form of

2152
01:24:44,990 --> 01:24:43,260
our artificial intelligence and that

2153
01:24:47,990 --> 01:24:45,000
they're working with the aliens our

2154
01:24:49,970 --> 01:24:48,000
intelligence betrays us as George Knapp

2155
01:24:52,070 --> 01:24:49,980
would say and starts working for the

2156
01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:52,080
aliens to invade our planet

2157
01:24:56,810 --> 01:24:54,600
um but those are the fears we have

2158
01:24:59,630 --> 01:24:56,820
because we don't know where it's all

2159
01:25:02,209 --> 01:24:59,640
it's almost insane that we can have that

2160
01:25:04,130 --> 01:25:02,219
conversation and say you know what if

2161
01:25:05,870 --> 01:25:04,140
those Worlds Collide like we're at that

2162
01:25:07,610 --> 01:25:05,880
point I never would have thought 10

2163
01:25:10,010 --> 01:25:07,620
years ago that we would be at this point

2164
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:10,020
having that conversation you know as my

2165
01:25:15,169 --> 01:25:12,960
future aside would not yeah I was not

2166
01:25:17,330 --> 01:25:15,179
thinking you know hey what if we build

2167
01:25:19,790 --> 01:25:17,340
something AI based and then you know we

2168
01:25:20,930 --> 01:25:19,800
really do call ET home or whatever it

2169
01:25:22,970 --> 01:25:20,940
may be

2170
01:25:33,370 --> 01:25:22,980
um do we want to open up Pandora's box

2171
01:25:37,370 --> 01:25:35,689
I'll be like you know what I've done

2172
01:25:39,169 --> 01:25:37,380
what I'm supposed to do here it's my

2173
01:25:41,689 --> 01:25:39,179
time I'm not that I'm gonna pass it who

2174
01:25:43,370 --> 01:25:41,699
knows real fast but just average age I'm

2175
01:25:45,110 --> 01:25:43,380
like you know I've done my I've done

2176
01:25:47,450 --> 01:25:45,120
what I'm supposed to do here I'm going

2177
01:25:49,130 --> 01:25:47,460
on to the next and you know yeah so

2178
01:25:51,050 --> 01:25:49,140
hopefully we've done left it in the best

2179
01:25:52,729 --> 01:25:51,060
possible way we all can so that the next

2180
01:25:55,370 --> 01:25:52,739
Generations have something better to

2181
01:25:57,229 --> 01:25:55,380
work with but I'm just happy that I'm

2182
01:26:03,530 --> 01:25:57,239
I'm just happy in the era that I brought

2183
01:26:07,850 --> 01:26:05,810
yeah a beautiful way to wrap it up

2184
01:26:10,250 --> 01:26:07,860
Chrissy leaving the world in a better

2185
01:26:13,250 --> 01:26:10,260
place than um you know kind of what we

2186
01:26:15,770 --> 01:26:13,260
had so I I think that's just the perfect

2187
01:26:16,790 --> 01:26:15,780
way to to live your life is leave it a

2188
01:26:18,649 --> 01:26:16,800
little better

2189
01:26:20,930 --> 01:26:18,659
um and hopefully that's what this this

2190
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:20,940
technology will do eventually

2191
01:26:25,790 --> 01:26:22,800
Um well hey I want to wrap this up I've

2192
01:26:30,410 --> 01:26:25,800
kept you way longer than I told you I

2193
01:26:33,169 --> 01:26:30,420
would so um last thing I want to

2194
01:26:35,209 --> 01:26:33,179
um tease with our audience are these

2195
01:26:36,530 --> 01:26:35,219
events that you mentioned at the top of

2196
01:26:39,229 --> 01:26:36,540
the show um you're going to be taking

2197
01:26:41,510 --> 01:26:39,239
part in a screening in Los Angeles of

2198
01:26:43,850 --> 01:26:41,520
Ariel phenomenon and speaking at contact

2199
01:26:45,950 --> 01:26:43,860
in the desert so could you tease a

2200
01:26:48,530 --> 01:26:45,960
little bit about both of these events

2201
01:26:50,689 --> 01:26:48,540
for us Chrissy Before I Let You Go yeah

2202
01:26:52,669 --> 01:26:50,699
so on April 19th I will be in Los

2203
01:26:54,950 --> 01:26:52,679
Angeles so please come for a screening

2204
01:26:56,750 --> 01:26:54,960
if you have not viewed or watched aerial

2205
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,760
phenomenon also this will be my first

2206
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,560
time seeing it on the big screen uh

2207
01:27:03,830 --> 01:27:00,480
rental Nickerson is a beautiful

2208
01:27:05,629 --> 01:27:03,840
beautiful director it's just the visuals

2209
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:05,639
are amazing and here the storytelling is

2210
01:27:08,570 --> 01:27:07,380
unbelievable uh if you don't know

2211
01:27:11,270 --> 01:27:08,580
anything about the arrow phenomenon

2212
01:27:13,129 --> 01:27:11,280
Story please come and watch it and I

2213
01:27:15,590 --> 01:27:13,139
think you'll be blown away I'll be doing

2214
01:27:17,030 --> 01:27:15,600
I'll be hosting their talk for them and

2215
01:27:18,350 --> 01:27:17,040
then with Whitley strieber who I

2216
01:27:19,970 --> 01:27:18,360
actually haven't met yet so I'm excited

2217
01:27:21,410 --> 01:27:19,980
to meet him and then we're on lunar

2218
01:27:23,689 --> 01:27:21,420
descent and we're just going to have an

2219
01:27:26,090 --> 01:27:23,699
open dialogue conversation after the

2220
01:27:28,310 --> 01:27:26,100
screener so hopefully come everyone will

2221
01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:28,320
come there and get a ticket and then the

2222
01:27:31,910 --> 01:27:29,760
next one I'll be at is contact in the

2223
01:27:33,649 --> 01:27:31,920
desert I was saying earlier in the show

2224
01:27:35,930 --> 01:27:33,659
I'll be talking about the merge of PR

2225
01:27:37,729 --> 01:27:35,940
and the UAP topic so I'll be covering

2226
01:27:39,110 --> 01:27:37,739
things like media coverage I'm hopefully

2227
01:27:41,149 --> 01:27:39,120
going to break down some press releases

2228
01:27:43,010 --> 01:27:41,159
if I have the time

2229
01:27:44,629 --> 01:27:43,020
um uh that are press releases that have

2230
01:27:46,490 --> 01:27:44,639
happened within the UAP Conversation

2231
01:27:48,229 --> 01:27:46,500
Over years let's say and then I'll be

2232
01:27:50,030 --> 01:27:48,239
talking about military

2233
01:27:52,010 --> 01:27:50,040
um and the UA related to spokesperson

2234
01:27:53,450 --> 01:27:52,020
like Susan Goff and what that means and

2235
01:27:55,310 --> 01:27:53,460
breaking that down

2236
01:27:56,990 --> 01:27:55,320
um and all from a PR perspective so

2237
01:27:58,250 --> 01:27:57,000
please come if you want to get a ticket

2238
01:28:01,370 --> 01:27:58,260
please come support because it's my

2239
01:28:03,350 --> 01:28:01,380
first one and

2240
01:28:04,729 --> 01:28:03,360
um cheer me on and that's it yes I'm

2241
01:28:07,550 --> 01:28:04,739
just hoping it's good

2242
01:28:09,709 --> 01:28:07,560
um but please yes come and then contact

2243
01:28:11,030 --> 01:28:09,719
in the desert.com I hope so so and I'm

2244
01:28:13,070 --> 01:28:11,040
excited I've been working on it for a

2245
01:28:15,229 --> 01:28:13,080
while now so I'm all prepped and ready

2246
01:28:17,090 --> 01:28:15,239
to go uh and that's it so I hope to see

2247
01:28:20,270 --> 01:28:17,100
everyone there

2248
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,280
awesome awesome yes websites are right

2249
01:28:24,950 --> 01:28:22,800
there guys check out both of these and

2250
01:28:27,229 --> 01:28:24,960
uh be on the lookout for some top secret

2251
01:28:28,550 --> 01:28:27,239
projects of Chrissy and I in the very

2252
01:28:29,990 --> 01:28:28,560
near future

2253
01:28:32,870 --> 01:28:30,000
um hopefully we'll have more news on

2254
01:28:35,629 --> 01:28:32,880
that as the months go on

2255
01:28:37,729 --> 01:28:35,639
um but yeah that's all I got Chrissy I

2256
01:28:39,290 --> 01:28:37,739
have to um like I'm Gonna Let You Go

2257
01:28:41,990 --> 01:28:39,300
here and I'm gonna debrief with the

2258
01:28:45,169 --> 01:28:42,000
audience a little bit um but you have a

2259
01:28:47,030 --> 01:28:45,179
full night ahead of you so uh last but

2260
01:28:49,669 --> 01:28:47,040
not least where can everyone find

2261
01:28:51,470 --> 01:28:49,679
everything that you are personally up to

2262
01:28:53,330 --> 01:28:51,480
yep for sure they can go to the

2263
01:28:55,490 --> 01:28:53,340
debrief.org to check out all of our

2264
01:28:58,129 --> 01:28:55,500
articles Science Tech defense and

2265
01:29:00,290 --> 01:28:58,139
obviously UFOs I have my YouTube show

2266
01:29:01,970 --> 01:29:00,300
that's on there that I do bi-weekly so

2267
01:29:04,430 --> 01:29:01,980
you can go to the debrief YouTube page

2268
01:29:05,990 --> 01:29:04,440
as well and then uh below you can see

2269
01:29:07,729 --> 01:29:06,000
well it was there

2270
01:29:09,830 --> 01:29:07,739
um I had Chrissy Newton or maybe it is

2271
01:29:11,290 --> 01:29:09,840
there now okay I can't see it on my side

2272
01:29:15,470 --> 01:29:11,300
I don't know

2273
01:29:17,629 --> 01:29:15,480
no it's not it's okay okay uh accuracy

2274
01:29:19,490 --> 01:29:17,639
Newton uh is my Twitter and my Instagram

2275
01:29:20,570 --> 01:29:19,500
is at being Chrissy Newton and I

2276
01:29:23,270 --> 01:29:20,580
actually just bought my first website so

2277
01:29:24,590 --> 01:29:23,280
you can go to chrissynewton.com to see

2278
01:29:26,270 --> 01:29:24,600
just all the information all the stuff

2279
01:29:27,290 --> 01:29:26,280
that I've ever done in my life pretty

2280
01:29:30,290 --> 01:29:27,300
much

2281
01:29:33,169 --> 01:29:30,300
so uh and that's where everyone can

2282
01:29:34,850 --> 01:29:33,179
follow me awesome awesome Yep you can

2283
01:29:37,910 --> 01:29:34,860
find somewhere in the Skies over there

2284
01:29:39,890 --> 01:29:37,920
as well Chrissy thank you it's always an

2285
01:29:42,590 --> 01:29:39,900
honor to talk to you

2286
01:29:44,390 --> 01:29:42,600
um I will let you go you are free for

2287
01:29:47,510 --> 01:29:44,400
the night that's amazing good to see you

2288
01:29:51,649 --> 01:29:47,520
Ryan thank you so much we'll talk soon

2289
01:29:55,910 --> 01:29:53,930
amazing guys my special thanks to

2290
01:29:59,270 --> 01:29:55,920
Chrissy Newton as always for taking time

2291
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:59,280
out of her night to join us here um

2292
01:30:02,689 --> 01:30:00,960
thank you thank you to all of you for

2293
01:30:04,669 --> 01:30:02,699
watching today

2294
01:30:06,770 --> 01:30:04,679
um one less thing I want to share with

2295
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,780
you guys I posted something yesterday

2296
01:30:10,729 --> 01:30:08,400
and

2297
01:30:15,370 --> 01:30:10,739
um apparently a lot of people believed

2298
01:30:18,709 --> 01:30:15,380
it uh that was let me pull it up here

2299
01:30:21,110 --> 01:30:18,719
I tweeted after six years of rewrite

2300
01:30:23,750 --> 01:30:21,120
workshops and one night only run at the

2301
01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,760
Elks Lodge in Judd North Dakota my

2302
01:30:28,370 --> 01:30:26,159
puppet musical rendlesham will premiere

2303
01:30:31,669 --> 01:30:28,380
on Broadway this fall featuring voices

2304
01:30:33,649 --> 01:30:31,679
and puppetry by Jason Siegel and Bill

2305
01:30:37,010 --> 01:30:33,659
Hader

2306
01:30:39,169 --> 01:30:37,020
happy April Fool's Day guys I'm so sorry

2307
01:30:40,129 --> 01:30:39,179
to those of you who actually believe

2308
01:30:42,410 --> 01:30:40,139
this

2309
01:30:44,930 --> 01:30:42,420
um it didn't help that I was recently in

2310
01:30:47,450 --> 01:30:44,940
New York City and I had posted a video

2311
01:30:49,610 --> 01:30:47,460
saying exciting news coming soon

2312
01:30:51,470 --> 01:30:49,620
um this is not it this is an April

2313
01:30:53,689 --> 01:30:51,480
Fool's joke I do not have a musical

2314
01:30:57,770 --> 01:30:53,699
about rangersham yet

2315
01:31:00,050 --> 01:30:57,780
yet I am working on rental some uh

2316
01:31:02,930 --> 01:31:00,060
things tangentially I do have a one-man

2317
01:31:05,330 --> 01:31:02,940
show play about rendersham

2318
01:31:07,490 --> 01:31:05,340
um it's played all over the country and

2319
01:31:09,169 --> 01:31:07,500
uh to win a couple Awards

2320
01:31:10,850 --> 01:31:09,179
um there's a video version as well on

2321
01:31:12,530 --> 01:31:10,860
this YouTube channel so go back in the

2322
01:31:14,750 --> 01:31:12,540
archives you should be able to find it

2323
01:31:17,149 --> 01:31:14,760
somewhere just search for rendersham

2324
01:31:21,229 --> 01:31:17,159
play maybe that should work

2325
01:31:23,149 --> 01:31:21,239
um but excuse me this was an April

2326
01:31:25,129 --> 01:31:23,159
Fool's joke even my poor mother Sue

2327
01:31:27,169 --> 01:31:25,139
spreco I know is in the chat hi Mom

2328
01:31:28,610 --> 01:31:27,179
thank you so much for being here and

2329
01:31:31,189 --> 01:31:28,620
Douglas spread you guys are so

2330
01:31:32,390 --> 01:31:31,199
supportive I love you to the ends of the

2331
01:31:35,209 --> 01:31:32,400
Earth and Beyond

2332
01:31:37,310 --> 01:31:35,219
um my mom believed it and she actually

2333
01:31:39,890 --> 01:31:37,320
shared it so I had to like message her

2334
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:39,900
and say Bob it's April Fool's Day uh but

2335
01:31:43,550 --> 01:31:41,520
she was not the only one a lot of other

2336
01:31:46,129 --> 01:31:43,560
people were like oh my God you got me

2337
01:31:47,810 --> 01:31:46,139
you got me um so yes I do not have

2338
01:31:51,590 --> 01:31:47,820
rendition the musical premiering on

2339
01:31:54,110 --> 01:31:51,600
Broadway not yet not yet maybe I can get

2340
01:31:56,030 --> 01:31:54,120
Jason Siegel on that um so yeah I

2341
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:56,040
thought that was a fun thing to do I

2342
01:32:00,410 --> 01:31:57,600
should have just been a bit more careful

2343
01:32:02,629 --> 01:32:00,420
about how I framed it so

2344
01:32:04,430 --> 01:32:02,639
um maybe be on the lookout for rent

2345
01:32:08,629 --> 01:32:04,440
ocean the musical in the future

2346
01:32:11,870 --> 01:32:08,639
um but if not be on the lookout for a

2347
01:32:14,810 --> 01:32:11,880
brand new book by me coming to you in

2348
01:32:17,689 --> 01:32:14,820
end of April early may just talked to

2349
01:32:19,129 --> 01:32:17,699
the publisher today book covers done the

2350
01:32:20,570 --> 01:32:19,139
forward is done

2351
01:32:24,530 --> 01:32:20,580
um the forward is being written by the

2352
01:32:26,990 --> 01:32:24,540
one and only doctor Diana Walsh pasoka I

2353
01:32:28,550 --> 01:32:27,000
am so honored to have her doing the

2354
01:32:30,590 --> 01:32:28,560
forward for the book

2355
01:32:33,169 --> 01:32:30,600
um I hope you guys enjoy it I hope it

2356
01:32:35,570 --> 01:32:33,179
blows you away it's been a long time in

2357
01:32:39,110 --> 01:32:35,580
the making uh since the last book and

2358
01:32:40,490 --> 01:32:39,120
I'm really really excited for it so yeah

2359
01:32:43,129 --> 01:32:40,500
be on the lookout in the next couple of

2360
01:32:43,729 --> 01:32:43,139
months for that as well

2361
01:32:45,649 --> 01:32:43,739
um

2362
01:32:48,050 --> 01:32:45,659
that's all I got guys thank you for

2363
01:32:50,810 --> 01:32:48,060
joining me tonight on somewhere in the

2364
01:32:53,209 --> 01:32:50,820
live stream uh please click like please

2365
01:32:55,550 --> 01:32:53,219
click subscribe if you have not it helps

2366
01:32:57,770 --> 01:32:55,560
tremendously leave a comment in the

2367
01:32:59,870 --> 01:32:57,780
comments below not in the live chat but

2368
01:33:01,490 --> 01:32:59,880
in the actual comments below all of that

2369
01:33:03,950 --> 01:33:01,500
stuff kind of boosts us up in the

2370
01:33:05,330 --> 01:33:03,960
algorithms and gets our videos featured

2371
01:33:06,770 --> 01:33:05,340
um and gets more eyes on what we're

2372
01:33:08,990 --> 01:33:06,780
doing here at somewhere in the skies and

2373
01:33:10,850 --> 01:33:09,000
somewhere on the live stream so thank

2374
01:33:13,850 --> 01:33:10,860
you to all of you thank you again to our

2375
01:33:15,709 --> 01:33:13,860
super Chatters Nicholas and Jazz as

2376
01:33:17,990 --> 01:33:15,719
always for your support if you would

2377
01:33:21,350 --> 01:33:18,000
like to help support the show uh you can

2378
01:33:23,330 --> 01:33:21,360
do it at patreon.com somewhere Skies

2379
01:33:26,030 --> 01:33:23,340
um in return you get bonus episodes you

2380
01:33:28,189 --> 01:33:26,040
get um Early Access to episodes and you

2381
01:33:31,010 --> 01:33:28,199
also get priority to ask our guests your

2382
01:33:33,050 --> 01:33:31,020
listener questions and it really does

2383
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:33,060
truly help the show continue and Grow

2384
01:33:38,030 --> 01:33:36,239
Again patreon.com summer Skies you could

2385
01:33:40,610 --> 01:33:38,040
become a YouTube member as well right

2386
01:33:42,649 --> 01:33:40,620
here I think I saw someone just joined

2387
01:33:44,810 --> 01:33:42,659
actually as a YouTube member Robert

2388
01:33:46,669 --> 01:33:44,820
thank you thank thank you so much Robert

2389
01:33:48,709 --> 01:33:46,679
Rust for doing that I truly do

2390
01:33:51,290 --> 01:33:48,719
appreciate it you get all the same perks

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as patreon by becoming a YouTube member

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um you can do that below as well and

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last but not least you can also become a

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apple premium subscriber same benefits

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Early Access to episodes

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um priority eight to ask our guest

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questions and uh bonus bonus episodes

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too so that's it guys that's all I got

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thank you for joining me again for

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somewhere in the live stream

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um we might have an episode next week

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I'm not quite sure yet um it really

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depends on what I'll be doing here in

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Hawaii and um where my travels are at as

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well so I will keep you posted on that

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on Twitter

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um but I hope you enjoy our podcast

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highlights of the week with Christine

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Newton and as always keep your feet on

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the ground but never stop searching

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somewhere in the skies have a great

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morning evening uh wherever you guys are

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all right we'll talk soon take care

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laughs

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